Lapsed DM Question

[Sipadan]

My membership (DM) with PADI has lapsed. I really don't want to give them any more money, but how long can I stay out of favour without having to 're-train' and therefore give them even more money.

[Little Pete]

Have you checked the PADI (or PADI pro) website mate? They are usually pretty good about letting you know standards and such.

But back to your question, what do you mean by retrain. Are you wanting to know how long you can be a lapsed DM without needing to retrain as a DM (ie. work as a DM). I guess you know you'll have to be paid up (in Active status or whatever they call it).

With instructors I don't know the exacts but you have certain bands eg. 1 year out of training: need a brief tune up and check of skills, 2 years: Need some more in depth work with a Course Director, 5 years Need to redo the IDC, more than 5 need to redo IDC and IE.

The above are probably completely wrong but that's the sort of way I understand it to work. Don't quote me though and do check the PADI standards first Quite probably there is something similar for DM's though perhaps not as in depth as there is less teaching involved in the DM qualification.

I would have a glance at the PADI site for you mate but my internet is playing up

[Sipadan]

PADI website is down

To rephrase my question: My membership has lapsed, if I wanted to work as as a DM again, how long can I remain lapsed and re-gain active status by simply stumping up the cash for membership?

[Chris Bone]

I'm pretty sure once your out of active status (even if only for a while)you can return to active status be doing a quiz over the net, how long you can be out of active service before you have to do somthing extra I'm not sure.

[Little Pete]

PADI website is down

Ahh that explains why I couldn't get onto it to look then...ho-hum.

I should imagine you'd be alright within a year of lost status. Just a guess though and beyond that you'll need to check standards. Doesn't your LDS have an instructor manual they'll let you leaf through for a minute or a knowledgeable instructor who might know?

[dlegros]

From the PADI IM (GS&P Membership Status & Maintenance) Not much mentioned about DMs other than completing the requirements as stated on the renewal. This is related to Instructors who have gone inactive

An Inactive member may regain PADI membership by submitting a current
Membership Renewal Application and Annual Membership Agreement and membership
dues. If the member has been inactive for a year or more, he will initially
be renewed in a Nonteaching status. To regain Teaching status, the member must
fulfill retraining requirements specified by the Training and Quality Management
Department based on the length of the membership lapse.

HTH

Dom

[Brian of Aquanauts]

Each case is different. Why do you want to return as a working DM?

Once qualified you'll always have the DM rating just will not be permitted to work, so no money to PADI but your card is still valid. Best bet if you're over one year out of date is to do the AI course, at least you'll then advance a bit at the same time as paying to update.

imho

[Sipadan]

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

Why do you want to return as a working DM?

err, because I enjoy it

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

Once qualified you'll always have the DM rating just will not be permitted to work, so no money to PADI but your card is still valid.

Yeah, I know. If I didn't want to work again, I wouldn't even think about renewing.

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

Best bet if you're over one year out of date is to do the AI course, at least you'll then advance a bit at the same time as paying to update.

That's not a bad idea, but I have no intention of ever becoming an instructor, so seems a little excessive.

[ScubaK@]

If you haven't paid your dues you can't can't on to the website I don't think (willing to be corrected)!

K@