Should a CBL lift from 6m really take 1min?

[David Pye]

I think Aqua Marina might have been dealt with a bit harshly here. The question in the OP was one I might well have asked myself soon after starting teaching, though I would have asked my DO for advice on instructing and reasons for pass/fail.

I agree with the suggestion of asking the DO but it neglects the fact that in Uni clubs the DO may well not be an Instructor (in fact, the DO *can* be a Sports Diver), and therefore may not be the fountain of knowledge they often are in more 'stable' clubs.

David

[TerryH]

I agree with the suggestion of asking the DO but it neglects the fact that in Uni clubs the DO may well not be an Instructor (in fact, the DO *can* be a Sports Diver), and therefore may not be the fountain of knowledge they often are in more 'stable' clubs.

David

Hmm not quite true.

The "Sport Diver/DO" will have to refer all decisions to an Advanced Diver
and that grade should be sufficient to deal with most problems.

[David Pye]

Fortunately, our DO this year will be one, but I'd be very interested to know where in the BSAC bible it says that!

There's so many rules and regulations that it seems impossible for any one person to know them all!

[TerryH]

Fortunately, our DO this year will be one, but I'd be very interested to know where in the BSAC bible it says that!

There's so many rules and regulations that it seems impossible for any one person to know them all!

Took me two secs on the BSAC site and TBH this is the one role that
really does have to be right.

A Branch Diving Officer should hold at least the qualification of BSAC Advanced Diver and ideally be a BSAC Qualified Instructor (minimum Open Water Instructor). If not, they should nominate a Qualified Instructor (minimum Open Water Instructor) to be lead instructor of the Branch. The nominated individual will then award diving qualifications in accordance with current guidance, see award a diving qualification (Section 4.4.4).

[David Pye]

Took me two secs on the BSAC site and TBH this is the one role that
really does have to be right.

A Branch Diving Officer should hold at least the qualification of BSAC Advanced Diver and ideally be a BSAC Qualified Instructor (minimum Open Water Instructor). If not, they should nominate a Qualified Instructor (minimum Open Water Instructor) to be lead instructor of the Branch. The nominated individual will then award diving qualifications in accordance with current guidance, see award a diving qualification (Section 4.4.4).

My reading of that *still* doesn't agree with what you said though.

If they aren't an AD, they can nominate an OWI (who might well be a dive leader only).

Unless I have misunderstood.

David

[TerryH]

My reading of that *still* doesn't agree with what you said though.

If they aren't an AD, they can nominate an OWI (who might well be a dive leader only).

Unless I have misunderstood.

David

It was for years an Advanced Diver Preferably an NQI, and in the event
of one not being available you reffered to another Advanced Diver or even
your area/regional coach.

Its now changed to Advanced diver, ideally a qualified Instructor and in
the event of one not being available a qualified Instructor with the lowest
acceptable level being Open Water Instructor.

As you say this is works fine up to DL, but gets a little wooly when
awarding Advanced Diver. If you were doing such courses then the lowest
Instructor would be an Advanced one and he/she would logicly be the one
who you use as that qualified instructor.

BSAC always have a problem with this cause if they make anything to
stringent it could close the club.


In your specific case the Sport diver DO is NOT a high enough grade,
so would need to refer all diver awards upto DL level to an Open water
Instructor.

You might want to go online and print out the Branch Officers Handbook.
Its all written in there.

[Janos]

Just to add that the DO does not have to be an instructor if you are not awarding qualifications.

And also to add that your regional team will be more than happy to offer advice to inexperienced DOs.

Janos