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i reckon that my breather has paid for its self many times over i wouldnt go back to oc at all now gas costs were a consideration to me just done six gas dives and the bill was less than twenty quid on oc the bill would have been hundreds
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I did a generic RB cert about ten years ago with Kevin Gurr who at the point was pushing the Cis Lunar. He said that 50 mix dives was enough to make your money back on the unit. I never did the maths, but that was for a £8000 RB.
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Question Depth Limit
As I understand it, the "locked" IP on the KISS first stage limits the depth that you can take a KISS unit to. What is the effective maximum depth they can go to?

Isn't this one advantage that units like the Inspo/Evo/Meg have over the KISS? Assuming you want to dive beyond the KISS limit...

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As I understand it, the "locked" IP on the KISS first stage limits the depth that you can take a KISS unit to. What is the effective maximum depth they can go to?

Isn't this one advantage that units like the Inspo/Evo/Meg have over the KISS? Assuming you want to dive beyond the KISS limit...

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It depends on the oriface that you have and the IP that you have set for you personal O2 consumption, but it's about 100m (ish) with the newer (0.0035") oriface.
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Ahhh... the old 'depth limit' thing. Yep, KISS has constant IP 1st stage and so is "limited to" around 100-110m depending on the precise IP you run.

IMHO for most people that's like a granny wanting a Porsche instead of a BMW cos the BMW's limited to 155 MPH... and like the BMW if you really want to there are ways & means of getting round the limit.
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if you really want to there are ways & means of getting round the limit.
There are indeed. The KISS has been taken much deeper than the 100m limit. It's probably well suited for it as there are no components sealed in atmospheric pressure housings, it's all depth compensated to ambient so not much risk of leaking. On the old Classics at least, I heard someone say the new handsets are sealed at atmospheric.

IIRC a metering valve on a regular 1st stage was used, though I've heard of more complicated fixes. I suppose you could add a Hammerhead [muffled snigger].

100m is plenty deep for me. I can count on one hand the number of 100m+ dives I've done and still have fingers left over to scratch my arse with
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