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KISS & Sport KISS Rebreathers.: Discuss Hose weights in the Rebreathers - Unit Specific forums: My kiss currently has no hose weighting, and boy did my jaw ake after an hour on the unit. It'...

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Old 18-04-06, 09:40 PM
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Hose weights

My kiss currently has no hose weighting, and boy did my jaw ake after an hour on the unit.

It's been suggested that I make up some brass weights similar in design to the Inspiration weights. As none of my friends dive one of these models, does anyone have the dimensions / pictures etc. I'll get something machined up so it's an interference fit on my hoses.


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My kiss currently has no hose weighting, and boy did my jaw ake after an hour on the unit.

It's been suggested that I make up some brass weights similar in design to the Inspiration weights. As none of my friends dive one of these models, does anyone have the dimensions / pictures etc. I'll get something machined up so it's an interference fit on my hoses.
I use Inspiration hose weights. They fit the KISS perfectly but they are £££ for what they are (£15?). I think I'm ok with one set of weights, but I know of people who use two pairs.

If you want a less stylish solution I can probably dig out the lead solder that came with my KISS. It's somewhere in the loft though.

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Check out rebreatherworld. I placed some pics. of some stainless ring weights which could be used as hose weights. I even left the specs. Available from McMaster Carr. Look under KISS gallery.

That lead weight that comes with the KISS stinks! It leaves a shiny gloss on your hands and probably explains my recent bouts of insanity!
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I use Inspiration hose weights. They fit the KISS perfectly
hmm.. you must have differnt hoses to my unit... I tried fitting inspo weights, but found they were too small and caused my hoses to bunch up.

I use the lead coil supplied by jetsam.. just covered each ring with a tube of shrink wrap, so the lead is a bit more protected from seawater and any corrosion does not rub off so easily on my fingers...

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Anke,

You just need to stretch the hoses as you're fitting the weight.

I use one set, plus I velcro the loop down to the harness at the shoulders which saves that big loop of hose that catches currents nicely.
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I use the lead coil supplied by jetsam.. just covered each ring with a tube of shrink wrap, so the lead is a bit more protected from seawater and any corrosion does not rub off so easily on my fingers...
where did you get the shrink wrap stuff? (i take it thats the heat and shrink stuff.)

where do you guys mount the lead on the hoses, its the one thing i've been thinking about but not done anything about yet. I find the mouthpiece does push up but its not too uncomfortable, how much lead is required to make the mouthpiece neutral?
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I moved mine up and down a bit. They are now about three inches from the DSV. The mouthpiece is still bouyant though. When I bail off it floats waaay above my head.

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Mine are about mid way down the hose. With the velcro loops, if I bail off, the mouthpiece floats in front of my face.
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Mine are about mid way down the hose. With the velcro loops, if I bail off, the mouthpiece floats in front of my face.
Just curious, but is there any reason why you use velcro rather than bungee?

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where did you get the shrink wrap stuff? (i take it thats the heat and shrink stuff.)
Ebay - it's standard electrical stuff. I'm sure Maplin stock it too.
If I can find the box I see if I still have some of the right gauge I can let you have.

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where do you guys mount the lead on the hoses, its the one thing i've been thinking about but not done anything about yet. I find the mouthpiece does push up but its not too uncomfortable, how much lead is required to make the mouthpiece neutral?
I've been playing about with the location of the weight quite a bit.. too close to the mouthpiece and I get jaw fatigue, too far away and it keeps pulling up. I have a couple of rings now about 20cm either side of the DSV and anotehr further up the loop.

I drilled a couple of holes in the top side edge (where the manifold would sit) of the CL case and use bungee straps to hold the loop down. The loop is still a pain in current situations, but I don't think I would like to have it firmly strapped to the harness.. Zak, does that not restrict head movement too much???
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