Reg Servicing Courses or DIY? Where can I do them?

[jasondrake]

Does anyone know of any regulator manufacturers who offer service tech courses to divers who aren't employed by a dive shop? I already service my own kit but would like to have the ticket for future employment etc., and it seems that most courses are only offered to retail professionals.

[Hobby]

Zaid(mate of mine) did the Poseidon course,not sure if it made any difference him having an HSE ticket though.What it did'nt do was allow him to buy his own service bits,even though he was a fully qualified service tech.My how he laughed.
Hobby.

[Andy Winterburn]

Jason

I have tried (and might be getting closer) to get a course for servicing APEX regs. Their rule is: NO, not only to individuals but also to 'smaller' shops who sell Apex kit.
You have to be a major reseller to get a place on a course. Some-one from the DIS group was able to balg places for 6, but I missed out. Course costs about £100. Hope this helps.

[Jimmy hat diver]

question if i serviced my own reg's or my buddy's without doing a service course. and somthing happend on a dive (total gas loss ) though the 1st stage and someone died would my ins cover me if the HSC got involed and said it was due to the 1st not set up in the right way.

this is just a question i no that most divers use twin set's or pony's but there has always been that time when you have lost your buddy on a dive it's happend to most of us. so would this cover my family or my buddy's if it was down to me

for the sake of £40/50 a year is it not worth paying your LDS to do the service who are ins and trianed by the company's that make them.

[David]

not sure what you are insured for but where do you plan to get the bits to service regs with and how will you keep up to date with your regs without any training.

I would sevice my own regs if I had lots of em but for 3 is it realy worth it ??

DAvid

[sean0801]

Originally Posted by Jimmy hat diver

question if i serviced my own reg's or my buddy's without doing a service course. and somthing happend on a dive (total gas loss ) though the 1st stage and someone died would my ins cover me if the HSC got involed and said it was due to the 1st not set up in the right way.

this is just a question i no that most divers use twin set's or pony's but there has always been that time when you have lost your buddy on a dive it's happend to most of us. so would this cover my family or my buddy's if it was down to me

for the sake of £40/50 a year is it not worth paying your LDS to do the service who are ins and trianed by the company's that make them.

Are you a qualified engineer?

[chrisch]

Originally Posted by Jimmy hat diver

for the sake of £40/50 a year is it not worth paying your LDS to do the service who are ins and trianed by the company's that make them.

The shop is not insured by the companies that make regulators - they should have normal third pary liability.

Insurance companies generaly are keen to avoid paying anything and fatalities are expensive. I would not expect much help from them.

If you can show the shop to be negligent and as a result the reg suffered (for example) an HP seat failure the estate of the diver would have to sue the shop.

In your example - with twins - the seat failure should be controlled by isolating that 1st stage. The insurance company would claim (and with some justification) diver negligence or incompetence.

On a rec rig the failure would be harder to control, but as divers have experienced this and lived the insurance guys would still have a case.

That said I cannot see why the seat would fail if either a shop or a DIY person had checked the IP and done the job properly. Most likely a shop will have charged for a new seat and re-used the old one if this failure occured.

If you do it yourself and its your regs its your problem. Your life insurance will almost certainly pay out. Since many people die through their own incompetence or stupidity (smoke anyone ?) the insurance company takes this into account in its premium.

If you take money for servicing someone else's regs you are a business and need insurance. Without the service course you will not get it. If you still go ahead you are a fool...

Chris

[beanie]

Originally Posted by Jimmy hat diver

question if i serviced my own reg's or my buddy's without doing a service course. and somthing happend on a dive (total gas loss ) though the 1st stage and someone died would my ins cover me if the HSC got involed and said it was due to the 1st not set up in the right way.

this is just a question i no that most divers use twin set's or pony's but there has always been that time when you have lost your buddy on a dive it's happend to most of us. so would this cover my family or my buddy's if it was down to me

for the sake of £40/50 a year is it not worth paying your LDS to do the service who are ins and trianed by the company's that make them.

if your not doing it for money diving or servicing the HSE (take it thats who you mean by HSC) can't touch you

[The Purist]

If you're doing this for friends and are worried about your competence to do the job properly then stuff the insurance, you're the one who has to live with the consequences if the brown stuff hits the fan.

You won't save much money if you've only got a handful of regs - especially if you want to do it properly with U-baths etc. Once you get a significant number you're likely to be doing the sort of diving where I believe you *should* be competent in field maintenance of all of your own kit...