YD Fit Club

[frosty the snowman]

Originally Posted by Odin

I feel good - because I'm a LOT lighter than Frosty!

...and shorter.

Oh and let me know when you'll be wearing the nut chokers to the pool. I feel a cold coming on...

[Mark Powell]

Originally Posted by Okeanos

Health wise you are probably correct, as long as your blood pressure and heart rate echo this perceived fitness.

But when it comes to exercise weight does come into it even if you are really fit. Exercise that is affected by weight like running, stair climbing or walking, excess weight really does make a difference.

I am fit, I am overweight, I cannot run as fast or for as long as I used to, it's not fitness related as I can swim further then I ever have been able to. I can still sprint 100m in 13.9 seconds, my long distance is all to pot at the moment. I am trying to lose as much weight before London as I can. The more weight I lose the faster I can complete the marathon.

You are absolutely right Mark, my comment was a bit of a sweeping generalisation.

What I meant was that I prefer to focus on fitness rather than weight.

[Okeanos]

Just keeping up the idea of fitness and maybe trying to persuade other people to get fit/lose weight.

Last night I went for a run, I managed about 3 miles before I ran out of steam, seriously. The combined diet and exercise I am having to do is a little extreme. My 4th day of training on the trot, whilst dieting had to come to a final point. I did continue walking/jogging until I had clocked up 1.1/4 hours total.

My heart rate never dropped when I stopped running as it was working overtime trying to burn fat to replenish the glycogen levels. As I eat enough of the essential minerals, salts and I am well watered I didn't collapse. I did sleep for about 12 hours afterwards.

A quiet day today, 1 hour swim tonight, arms only to give my legs a rest.

Am I losing weight, yes, too quickly really, but I need to so I can get to a weight that I can train properly at.

[frosty the snowman]

Originally Posted by Okeanos

Just keeping up the idea of fitness and maybe trying to persuade other people to get fit/lose weight.

Last night I went for a run, I managed about 3 miles before I ran out of steam, seriously. The combined diet and exercise I am having to do is a little extreme. My 4th day of training on the trot, whilst dieting had to come to a final point. I did continue walking/jogging until I had clocked up 1.1/4 hours total.

My heart rate never dropped when I stopped running as it was working overtime trying to burn fat to replenish the glycogen levels. As I eat enough of the essential minerals, salts and I am well watered I didn't collapse. I did sleep for about 12 hours afterwards.

A quiet day today, 1 hour swim tonight, arms only to give my legs a rest.

Am I losing weight, yes, too quickly really, but I need to so I can get to a weight that I can train properly at.

Interesting to hear heart rate mentioned. Does anyone know of a source of affordable heart rate monitors? I don't want one with 20 different zones and a barometer. Just something very basic. A lot of people seem to recommend them. Any comments?

[lloydwatkin]

LIDL's had some for £3.99 a few weeks ago (aww bless!). Argos is pretty cheap for them too. I'm not a HRM training fan but it does wonders for lots of people!

[David G]

Originally Posted by frosty the snowman

Interesting to hear heart rate mentioned. Does anyone know of a source of affordable heart rate monitors? I don't want one with 20 different zones and a barometer. Just something very basic. A lot of people seem to recommend them. Any comments?

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David.

[SoggyFox]

Originally Posted by frosty the snowman

Interesting to hear heart rate mentioned. Does anyone know of a source of affordable heart rate monitors? I don't want one with 20 different zones and a barometer. Just something very basic. A lot of people seem to recommend them. Any comments?

I used one of these, and theres some zone of heart rate versus resting heart rate thats best for fat burning. I can't remember the numbers but when i was training heavily it was nearly killing me, running flat out on a fully inclined treadmill and wondering when my heart was going to give out as you see your heart rate at around 180.

[frosty the snowman]

Thanks for your responses. I'll pop into Exeter tomorrow and inverstigate. My understanding is that you generally have to work less hard than you thought you would when you use a HRM but maybe that's just wild optimism!

[Ding Dang Doo]

Just been for my lunchtime walk...

1.33 miles in 20mins... walking pace a smidge under 4mph - calories used 173

okay... so it's not like some of you on here... but it's more than I did yesterday, and so much more than I have been doing.

Also, no snacks, nibbles or the like, in between meals.

It's bloody windy out there! My ears have started to ache because of the cold!

Pete

[lloydwatkin]

Here's the basics of HRM training: Heart Rate Training – The Basics - Runner's World General

As I understand it, lots of people get the whole fat burning zone thing confused. Basically if you're running in the fat burning zone then you are burning fat at the most efficient rate possible (let's say 100%). When you bump up the pace and hit the cardio zone, you're still burning fat just not as efficiently (let's say 75%).

What is not often considered is that you're burning more energy when you're training harder so,

• 100 calories per hour (fat burning zone) * 100% = 100 calories/hour
• 150 calories per hour (cardio zone) * 75% = 112.5 calories/hour

So, even though you're not burning off the fat as efficiently as in the fat burning zone you're still burning off more in a set period of time (and at the same time you're giving your heart a good work out too).

I think training in the fat burning zone is good when you start off however as you don't have the fitness to do a long cardio workout so,

• 10 mins of flat out = 50 calories
• 1hr of steady pace = 300 calories

Losing the fat as your exercising for longer and you don't get the demoralising bit of having to stop (probably quit, go for a beer ). The cardio bit comes with time and as the weight comes off it becomes a bit easier so you can start burning fat in the cardio regeime instead

That's how I see it anyways Oh and all these numbers are made up, but get the point across hopefully!

Lloyd

PS

Also, no snacks, nibbles or the like, in between meals.

It's good to snack between meals (keeps blood-sugar stable, and metabolism up) just keep it healthy. I keep banannas and apples in work for when I get peckish (don't you know :P)