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Non Diving Posts: Discuss The Big Brother Car Tracking thing. in the Non-Diving Related Forums forums: This has been descussed on YD already and, tbh, I can't remember if I signed the petition or not. Anyway, ...

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Old 09-02-07, 12:50 PM
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The Big Brother Car Tracking thing.

This has been descussed on YD already and, tbh, I can't remember if I signed the petition or not. Anyway, the belo is self explanatory. Follow the link at the end and sign the petition ....... or don't .............

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>Whether you drive a car or not, please read -
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>Sarah Kennedy was talking about this proposed car tax scheme on Radio 2.
>Apparently there is only one month left to register your objection to the
>'Pay As You Go' road tax.
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>The petition is on the 10 Downing St website but they didn't tell anybody
>about it. Therefore at the time of Sarah's comments only 250,000 people had
>signed it and 750,000 signatures are required for the government to at
>least take any notice.
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>Once you've given your details (you don't have to give your full address,
>just house number and postcode will do), they will send you an email with a
>link in it. Once you click on that link, you'll have signed the petition.
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>The government's proposal to introduce road pricing will mean you having to
>purchase a tracking device for your car and paying a monthly bill to use
>it.
>The tracking device will cost about £200 and in a recent study by the BBC,
>the lowest monthly bill was £28 for a rural florist and £194 for a delivery
>driver. A non working mother who used the car to take the kids to school
>paid £86 in one month.
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>On top of this massive increase in tax, you will be tracked. Somebody will
>know where you are at all times. They will also know how fast you have been
>going, so even if you accidentally creep over a speed limit in time you can
>probably expect a Notice of Intended Prosecution with your monthly bill.
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>If you are concerned about this Orwellian plan and want to stop the
>constant
>bashing of the car driver, please sign the petition on No 10's new website
>(link below) and pass this on to as many people as possible. Sign up if
>you
>value your freedom and democratic rights -
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http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/traveltax
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only problem is this is a load of b*ll*x

There is a petition.

It's an official No. 10 website

However, anyone can put a petition on there about anything (well, almost) - and just because there's a petition against it doesn't mean anyone is (a) actually doing whatever it is the petition is against, or (b) going to change even if they were.

As far as I understand it, there are no proposals yet along the lines mentioned in the petition - but it hasn't stopped 934,015 people signing up so far!! (Probably more now!)
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Could anyone actually find this 'BBC Study' that everyone refers to - no clue about it on the BBC website when you search for 'road pricing' (BBC - Search results for road pricing) and curiosuly they don't even mention their own alleged study in their report on this petition (BBC NEWS | UK | Road charge petition tops 230,000)

But heck, why cloud the hysteria with some facts eh?
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>Once you've given your details (you don't have to give your full address,
>just house number and postcode will do),

hahahahahahaha.... with your house number and postcode, they will already be able to figure out your full address!!!


Well, I can't find anything about this BBC survey thing either. I suspect that the non working mother also drove to her neighbours for coffee every morning,a nd to Sainsbury's three times a week, round to her mothers, etc. etc.

In a week where I go practically nowhere, I can still rack up 100 miles!

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As far as I understand it, there are no proposals yet along the lines mentioned in the petition - but it hasn't stopped 934,015 people signing up so far!! (Probably more now!)
Which is more than the 750,000 stated as a minimum requirement for the government to take any notice, so it won't happen now, will it
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hahahahahahaha.... with your house number and postcode, they will already be able to figure out your full address!!!


Well, I can't find anything about this BBC survey thing either. I suspect that the non working mother also drove to her neighbours for coffee every morning,a nd to Sainsbury's three times a week, round to her mothers, etc. etc.

In a week where I go practically nowhere, I can still rack up 100 miles!


Which is more than the 750,000 Finless quotes, so it won't happen now, will it
I quoted nothing. I am just directing attention to what someone else has quoted.

I'm not entirely certain but I'm sure THEY could find our where I live without the aid of this petition.

Worth it or not? I don't care. I am totally opposed to anything like this and I don't care who knows. I don't care if it is all lobbocks as I will sign it just in case.
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I quoted nothing. I am just directing attention to what someone else has quoted.

I'm not entirely certain but I'm sure THEY could find our where I live without the aid of this petition.

Worth it or not? I don't care. I am totally opposed to anything like this and I don't care who knows. I don't care if it is all lobbocks as I will sign it just in case.
Apologies, Finless, I will amend my original post.

The idea that not putting your full address somehow protects you from something is laughable though, when it is easily obtained form a house number and post code.
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Apologies, Finless, I will amend my original post.

The idea that not putting your full address somehow protects you from something is laughable though, when it is easily obtained form a house number and post code.
Yes indeed.

In addition to no longer worrying about quoting my address I am correspondingly starting to acquire password paranoia .........

a) In case someone finds out what they are.
b) There are so many to remember.

I am also beginning to get 'telephone security check rage'. It's at the point now that I would rather correspond in writing than phone up. Of course this rage is exacerbated by phone menu options.
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