Past train time table for London to Liverpool???

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by Scubee

Have you two got matching flasks and anoraks?
I used to have a boss that could tell you exactly how many tunnels there were on the way out of Kings Cross heading north (15, i think he said) !

no too many weekends of travelling from Chester to London and back again for the love of a good woman, when you do the same trip every fortnight for nearly a year you get to know the route and its alternatives when there are line closures pretty well

I can beat any internet rail planner for the best route/cost from Euston to Chester if I know what works there are on lines

[Scubee]

Originally Posted by gerbil

Which makes you some one who can, "tell you exactly how many tunnels there were on the way out of Kings Cross heading north."

[Narked@50]

Thanks Guys

Obviously missed the Rugby bit, too used to a car - apologies.

The problem I had with this was that this person called in to work at around 4pm on Friday to say they could not get home from London for their Saturday shift at work the next morning. Considering they missed their train, it wasn't cancelled, and they had just had two weeks holiday over Xmas, I thought it unreasonable not to make more of an effort. They had chosen to go to London and should have made sure they could get back in time, the train problems did not happen just that day. They also said it was unsafe to wait for a later train and the journey time was 6 hours, which would get them into Liverpool after 1am. This is a 19 year old who regularly goes out in Liverpool clubbing to the early hours, so I'm not really convinced of this either, but safely is relative so I won't make an issue of it.

I just think she is too blasé about the whole thing and could not be bothered making more of an effort, she was not in the least apologetic, just very righteous. She could have got an earlier train or changed somewhere, she could even have got an early Saturday train and been late, she just chose not to.

What would you do with them? Is it her responsibility to get to work, especially at a peak time when she let the rest of her crew down?

James

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by Narked@50

Thanks Guys

Obviously missed the Rugby bit, too used to a car - apologies.

The problem I had with this was that this person called in to work at around 4pm on Friday to say they could not get home from London for their Saturday shift at work the next morning. Considering they missed their train, it wasn't cancelled, and they had just had two weeks holiday over Xmas, I thought it unreasonable not to make more of an effort. They had chosen to go to London and should have made sure they could get back in time, the train problems did not happen just that day. They also said it was unsafe to wait for a later train and the journey time was 6 hours, which would get them into Liverpool after 1am. This is a 19 year old who regularly goes out in Liverpool clubbing to the early hours, so I'm not really convinced of this either, but safely is relative so I won't make an issue of it.

I just think she is too blasé about the whole thing and could not be bothered making more of an effort, she was not in the least apologetic, just very righteous. She could have got an earlier train or changed somewhere, she could even have got an early Saturday train and been late, she just chose not to.

What would you do with them? Is it her responsibility to get to work, especially at a peak time when she let the rest of her crew down?

James

she's 19, enough said.

[gingerstu]

is she fit?







sorry

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by gingerstu

is she fit?







sorry

I did think this but my brain engaged before posting

now somebody else has asked Is she and would/could you

[CatB]

Originally Posted by Narked@50

Thanks Guys

Obviously missed the Rugby bit, too used to a car - apologies.

The problem I had with this was that this person called in to work at around 4pm on Friday to say they could not get home from London for their Saturday shift at work the next morning. Considering they missed their train, it wasn't cancelled, and they had just had two weeks holiday over Xmas, I thought it unreasonable not to make more of an effort. They had chosen to go to London and should have made sure they could get back in time, the train problems did not happen just that day. They also said it was unsafe to wait for a later train and the journey time was 6 hours, which would get them into Liverpool after 1am. This is a 19 year old who regularly goes out in Liverpool clubbing to the early hours, so I'm not really convinced of this either, but safely is relative so I won't make an issue of it.

I just think she is too blasé about the whole thing and could not be bothered making more of an effort, she was not in the least apologetic, just very righteous. She could have got an earlier train or changed somewhere, she could even have got an early Saturday train and been late, she just chose not to.

What would you do with them? Is it her responsibility to get to work, especially at a peak time when she let the rest of her crew down?

James

Sorry to drag this back to a sensible track but she does have a point about safety. I live in Cardiff and occasionally go out clubbing with my friends there until late but I still wouldn't be keen to do a late night journey probably on a mixture of buses and trains with a thoroughly messed up timetable (and likely naff all staff to direct you between buses and trains) that got me back there after 1am on my own, especially on a night where there would probably be less taxis than usual when I arrived at the other end.

Having said that, if I knew I had to be in work the next day and train service was limited I'd have done all I could to make sure I caught the one I needed and failing that got in ASAP in the morning

I guess the action you take depends on her previous conduct, attitude and how much you feel it was her fault in missing the train (not checking the timetable, making adequate plans etc) vs having had a reasonable plan that was screwed up at short notice by the train company when the planned works overran.

I'm playing devils advocate a bit now here but is it possible she was being 'righteous' because she was embarrassed or guilty at having let people down and consequently trying to blame someone else?

Just some ideas - not knowing the person in question it is impossible for me to make a judgment.

[Jay_Benson]

Sorry for being away for so long I have just been watching the 1827 go through Belper - excellent lighting from the retro fit LED lamps in the leading power car. I work for the culprits of the piece so I have access to maps of the railway.

Of course what the girl should have done was to walk for 10 minutes and catch a train from London St Pancras International (anorak on - it has just been done up and it is stunning - anorak off) to Sheffield and then catch a direct train from Sheffield to Liverpool. Or if that wasn't possible go a further 100 metres to Kings Cross, avoid Hogwarts students with owls etc, and go to either Leeds or Retford followed by Sheffield. Plenty of options - I think that the East Coast was open but there may have been a few engineering works on the Midland mainline.

[Digger]

Originally Posted by Narked@50

Thanks Guys

Obviously missed the Rugby bit, too used to a car - apologies.

The problem I had with this was that this person called in to work at around 4pm on Friday to say they could not get home from London for their Saturday shift at work the next morning. Considering they missed their train, it wasn't cancelled, and they had just had two weeks holiday over Xmas, I thought it unreasonable not to make more of an effort. They had chosen to go to London and should have made sure they could get back in time, the train problems did not happen just that day. They also said it was unsafe to wait for a later train and the journey time was 6 hours, which would get them into Liverpool after 1am. This is a 19 year old who regularly goes out in Liverpool clubbing to the early hours, so I'm not really convinced of this either, but safely is relative so I won't make an issue of it.

I just think she is too blasé about the whole thing and could not be bothered making more of an effort, she was not in the least apologetic, just very righteous. She could have got an earlier train or changed somewhere, she could even have got an early Saturday train and been late, she just chose not to.

What would you do with them? Is it her responsibility to get to work, especially at a peak time when she let the rest of her crew down?

James

THis is where I have an undocumented discussion that goes along the lines of "I'm not a fecking idiot, and I'm not going to make a big deal out of it, but if it happens again I'm going to drag you through the procedure and make it hurt." I prefer this method sometimes. It's a fine way of not having to prove anything.

That said, the balance of probabilities is all you need. Which I'd say you probably had. Enough for a good documented kicking at least. Even if you find there's no case to answer it's often useful that people know you're not afraid to investigate and what the consequences of you not being so lenient could have been.

Digs.

[Digger]

Originally Posted by dry suit diver

I did think this but my brain engaged before posting

now somebody else has asked Is she and would/could you

You can't post that. She's not just some object you know. James is a gentleman and the very idea wouldn't have even occured to him. Ever. At all.

Digs.