Qualified Electrician question

[deepbull]

what zone would you say the fan is in?

http://www.amdea.org.uk/Forms/Bathrooms_Guidance.pdf

[Frankie Price]

Originally Posted by dry suit diver

any NICEIC company will be able to give you the required inspection and carry out the work.

Cheers, that's good to know, I may give it a try this year.
(Don't know how I stand regarding carrying dive kit in the caravan for weekend trips though)

[colinicky]

Originally Posted by Frankie Price

The rules for touring caravans have got much keener and all modern units (last 15 years I think) have both MCB protected circuits and RCCB ground fault protection.
Also they should be checked and certified by an approved service centre annually for insurance cover to be valid.
Not really surprising considering the electric hot water and central heating systems you get in caravans today.

The rules for touring caravans is total bollocks when it comes to lpg gas :-
On a static caravan you need to be Corgi registered for insurance purposes but touring dealerships do not have to have a corgi qualified person to service a touring van . It is actually an exemption from the rules & there is more chance of a fitting or something failing on a touring caravan bouncing down the road than on a static once it is on a concrete base & chained down !

[Frankie Price]

Originally Posted by colinicky

The rules for touring caravans is total bollocks when it comes to lpg gas :-
On a static caravan you need to be Corgi registered for insurance purposes but touring dealerships do not have to have a corgi qualified person to service a touring van . It is actually an exemption from the rules & there is more chance of a fitting or something failing on a touring caravan bouncing down the road than on a static once it is on a concrete base & chained down !

Yes, must agree, the only thing they do is a pressure test and change the rubber connecting hoze to the cylinder and charge £70.

[colinicky]

Originally Posted by deepbull

what zone would you say the fan is in?

http://www.amdea.org.uk/Forms/Bathrooms_Guidance.pdf

Definite zone 2

[deepbull]

Originally Posted by colinicky

Definite zone 2

then an ip44 mains fan protected by an RCD
as i read it

[MartyC]

Originally Posted by dry suit diver

mid afternoon snack required ?


oh and would hope I am right as I just got accepted as a member of the institue of Engineering and technology ( formerly the Institute of Electrical Engineers).

Well done you, congratualtions (IEE sounds better thou, or am just being old fashioned? )

Can't say where the fruit came from I'd just had a digestive maybe it was inner self saying oi fatty eat more fruit

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by colinicky

No they can't because all cables are buried in the ceiling & you can only get to them by taking the roof of the caravan !

no ya muppet they inspect the installation at the switches,sockets and do tests to the wiring from the consumer unit then if its all OK you get a certificate valid for 12 months.

shows any deterioration in wiring and gives a report on the condition of the installation .I will try a find a link for the NICEIC about inspection etc

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by MartyC

Well done you, congratualtions (IEE sounds better thou, or am just being old fashioned? )

Can't say where the fruit came from I'd just had a digestive maybe it was inner self saying oi fatty eat more fruit

yes MIEE would have had a better ring to it.

I will scan the relevant pages from the current edition of the regs , rather than a mickey mouse outfit , tomorrow when back in work. I know for definite the NICEIC require it to be SELV and they are the top bods. now know as the Electrical Safety Council to ensure the public become more aware.

would have to look into the rules about part P though, to me its a dwelling so I would be inclined to notify /self certificate for approved installers.

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by colinicky

DSD
Any idea when the regs change for this ? Reason for asking is that we have just had a brand new static caravan delivered ( off production line last week so not old stock ) & it has .... IP24 mains fan in exactly the same position & has been certified !

zoning was brought in in the regs issued 2001, I wouldn't worry as the new regs remove the need for a lot of things in bathrooms and stipulate the requirements for RCDs protecting circuits. there may of course be other stautory documnets for Caravans that supercede the IEE regulations that permit non SELV fans. I tend to avoid caravan work like the plague as the installations are always a pain. last one I did was in the time of ' out of reach'