help with a light fitting please

[diving_moose]

Hi,
Well not a clue when it comes to electrics, i have a light fitting that i want to put up it has the connector block with the blue-neutral and brown-live and earth going into the connector. now i have undone the old fitting and it has two live wires red and brown and two neutrals black and blueThese are all currently going into individual holes in the connectors of the old fitting.
Now do the two neutrals now go into the same neutral hole on the new fitting and do the two lives go together into one hole on the new connector box.

Help

[scuba steve irl]

red is the old live coulor code as is a black neutrel .

put the red and browns together and the blues and blacks together .

turn off everthing in your fuse board as another light may have been picked up off the neutrels and a shock of a negitive will kill you faster than a live .

turn everthing off and youll be safe . unless you fall off the ladder

[Sparky750]

A black could actually be live/ switch wire so you need to be careful not to put them all together if you can post a pic of what you currently have i may be able to help just reluctant without seeing it incase you end up with spikey hair

[scuba steve irl]

not only dat but iv come across houses that have been completely wire in 1 color . aaaaaahhhhhhh .

just cause they ran out of 1 color and were tooo lazy to go the wholesalers to get another coil .

[frosty the snowman]

I'm glad you're seeking the proper advice. Some years ago I was helping a (not unatractive single female) colleague (with no ulterior motive in mind, honest) to renevate her house. As I can fit a plug, I was confident I could put up a light fitting. Interstingly neither the actual shock, or the resulting fall from the ladder actually injured me too badly and the scorch marks on the ceiling only took a few coats of emulsion to cover up.

[Diving Dude]

Do the red and brown go into one terminal in the ceiling rose, the blue and the black to two separate terminals?. If so it sound like Sparky says the black could be the switched live.

If you're not sure which wire is which just lick them one at a time.

Before doing this please get someone to video you.



















Disclaimer.

Don't do anything l suggest unless you're a total feckin' muppet.

[David G]

These may help:

Ultimate Handyman: ceiling rose wiring

Ultimate Handyman: lighting

Regards,

David.

[scuba steve irl]

OOOOOOooooooooooyyyyyyYYYYYiiiiIIIIII

bet youll turn it off in future

so is this what happened

[Sparky750]

outside chance i'm in hull on tuesday beverly isn't that far out of the way i could call in and fit it if your desperate although i won't know until late tomorrow afternoon if you post up pics of what you have i can probably tell you on here (still connected to the old fitting)

[j.w.]

I would completely ignore this. NOT the thing to do.

Originally Posted by scuba steve irl

red is the old live coulor code as is a black neutrel .

put the red and browns together and the blues and blacks together .

turn off everthing in your fuse board as another light may have been picked up off the neutrels and a shock of a negitive will kill you faster than a live .

turn everthing off and youll be safe . unless you fall off the ladder

Would recommend this

Sparky750 A black could actually be live/ switch wire so you need to be careful not to put them all together if you can post a pic of what you currently have i may be able to help just reluctant without seeing it incase you end up with spikey hair

Sounds like you have what is called a loop in system.
There are a few outcomes to messing this up.
1 YOU COULD GET HURT, NOT A GOOD ONE.
2 You will trip your breaker / blow your fuse, then suffer the head shaking and tutting of the spark you get out to sort it.
3 The light you are changing will come on. great but it won't go off.
4 The switch for that room now switches the lights on and off in half the house.

Either send a pic as asked or maybe best have a browse through the yellow pages.

Best of luck John.