Proposal for Change to YD

[Tunicates]

I think there really has to be a seperate section for DIR, CCR, and cave.

why?

Its because us newbs come here for the crazed banter, but unfortunately end up learning stuff about diving. Sad its true, but it cant be helped.
All those minority interest techniques are SO different than the normal recreational that if they were all mushed together we might start to think that it was normal to dive like a Busby Berkely musical, or to trim like a stoned ninja on acid, or we'd be wondering why it was useful to have a cheap source of lime. What's wrong with lemon?

So I'm in general agreement with Howard the ninja

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

For general DIR vs Strokes nastiness / banter / heated debate - we continue to use the general YD forums.

Absolutlely

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

In this context - all Fundamentalists should start their post with the words: "We". In this way the tone is set right from the off: both condescending and patronising at the same time. All Strokes should try and pick every opportunity to turn any reasonable discussion by any of the DIR mob into a full blown fight. For example: If Mal were to post: "I've just been burgled - my whole house has been turned upside down" - Steve S should come back immediately with "Oh you don't mind having your house turned upside down - but you resent me doing it to my cylinders..."

Abso-fucken-lutley

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

The DIR Forum will be reserved for DIR "activists" to say the really outrageous and provocative stuff without any right for Stroke comeback whatsoever. Think of it as the GUE Embassy - sovereign territory where we are exempt from scrutiny.

This is where we diverge. This is Yorkshire Divers, not di(r)vergence divers.
YI'd have thought you're going to have to accept the occasional raid - , ahem - er ah, honest questioning and interest or it wouldnt be YD.

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

Posts here should be of a really confrontational and unreasonable nature, using the words "Death" and "Bodybag" as much as possible. Regurgitated George Irvine III expressions like "Farm Animal Stupidity" and "Star Wars Bar Room Scene" should feature strongly. Somewhere to really stick the knife in when another rebreather diver or deep air merchant has had an unfortunate incident. This forum will be both a compassion and milk of human kindness free zone.

Ah yes, back on track now.........and there was still milk and buttered scones for tea, and the gentle clanck of tank on rigging.....and all was well with the world.

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

As you were

What he said - mostly.

[Okeanos]

Sorry I haven't read every post and this may have been said, but, do we have a PADI/BSAC/TDI forum? It's just another training agency. Having kit specific forums like CCR or cylinders is fine as most teach you how to use those, having agency forums you should either have all or none.

[Scubee]

Originally Posted by Moz

PS What about smut.............where does that fit in?

Tsk. Bloomin' everywhere!!

[Tunicates]

I see where your coming from there Okeanos, but its not strictly about agency is it?

BSAC and PADI and the others are 'just' teaching people to dive. Remember when there was 'just' diving. As in getting wet?

If you had a sample of divers from all those other agencys together they could all dive the same 5m puddle together and it would work.
Put some dir divers in there with them and it wouldnt work
cos the borg dont 'just' dive. Even a 5m bimble done dir is totally different.

Thats why I think they still need a safe place for wierd minorities.
Why think of it as an agency thing? Why not think of it as a dive mindset thing?

[Howard Payne]

PADI and BSAC are just agencies - DIR is both a religion and lifestyle choice at the same time. We also have an annoying range of leisurewear

Mark's right -why isn't there a PADI and BSAC forum?

[Scubee]

As Phill said a few posts ago, GUE, PADI, BSAC, TDI are agencies, DIR is a style of diving.

So... to even it up, we should have a Stroke forum, in which we can debate various strokey styles of diving. All threads must be started off... I am not a stroke, but...

[stevechesh]

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

Mark's right -why isn't there a PADI and BSAC forum?

Well, if there was a PADI forum, we'd all have to pay $$$$ per post.

PADI Adventures in Forums - I can see it now. . . . .

[Moz]

Originally Posted by Scubee

Tsk. Bloomin' everywhere!!

Got any beaver photos then?
I know BB has and puppies!

Originally Posted by Tunicates are Mad

If you had a sample of divers from all those other agencys together they could all dive the same 5m puddle together and it would work.
Put some dir divers in there with them and it wouldnt work
cos the borg dont 'just' dive. Even a 5m bimble done dir is totally different.

Shit, I must need an update then!

Originally Posted by Tunicates are Mad

Thats why I think they still need a safe place for wierd minorities.
Why think of it as an agency thing? Why not think of it as a dive mindset thing?

Not wierd, speshul

[Diving Dude]

l think if anythings going to change it should be making me the DIR forum Mod.


Now wouldn't that be fun

l'd fit right in bacause my inspo has a Halcyon sticker on the back and Halcyon and DIRzone pressure gauges...Oh and l can talk bollox to a high degree.

[Steve Summers]

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

Right - I think I've come up with a happy compromise.

For general DIR vs Strokes nastiness / banter / heated debate - we continue to use the general YD forums.

In this context - all Fundamentalists should start their post with the words: "We". In this way the tone is set right from the off: both condescending and patronising at the same time.

All Strokes should try and pick every opportunity to turn any reasonable discussion by any of the DIR mob into a full blown fight. For example: If Mal were to post: "I've just been burgled - my whole house has been turned upside down" - Steve S should come back immediately with "Oh you don't mind having your house turned upside down - but you resent me doing it to my cylinders..."

The DIR Forum will be reserved for DIR "activists" to say the really outrageous and provocative stuff without any right for Stroke comeback whatsoever. Think of it as the GUE Embassy - sovereign territory where we are exempt from scrutiny.

Posts here should be of a really confrontational and unreasonable nature, using the words "Death" and "Bodybag" as much as possible. Regurgitated George Irvine III expressions like "Farm Animal Stupidity" and "Star Wars Bar Room Scene" should feature strongly. Somewhere to really stick the knife in when another rebreather diver or deep air merchant has had an unfortunate incident. This forum will be both a compassion and milk of human kindness free zone.

As you were

All this deep air must have addled my brain but that's what we have now isn't it, where is the proposed change?

Safe diving,
Steve