Fuel costs.

[Paulus]

We could start with chavs and benefit scroungers, those who have never worked and never intend to and move on, daily mail style from there.

J.

But think of the environmental issues here!!
The mountain of rotting corpses such a cull would create will produce vast amounts of CO2 and surface run-off would pollute water courses.

[NotDeadYet]

But think of the environmental issues here!!
The mountain of rotting corpses such a cull would create will produce vast amounts of CO2 and surface run-off would pollute water courses.

There was the legend of the body factory from World War I, bodies returned to Germany for rendering for chemicals to fuel the war effort. Solves all the problems.

Apparently the Daily Mail loved it:

MercatorNet - The art of faking credentials

[DIVE BUDDHA]

what actualy does the government make in taxes per litre! ?

isnt it 65% fuel tax +vat as well ! which makes it around 80 % tax

im sure i read in the paper that out of every £10 of fuel £8 of it goes to the

treasury in tax!

im all for being green and trying to do my bit on reducing the carbon footprint

i wonder if the biggest polluting nation on the globe is putting up fuel taxes to

offset envioromental issues? yes america? i dought they are !

[Adrian Kelland]

I'm wondering how long the countries that subsidise the cost of fuel will be able to continue to do so. Then you may see availability go up for those left who can afford the fuel cost - who ever they are.

[StephenTh]

Quoting from a very wise chappie in another thread -
"Just a very quick "back of an envelope" calculation - figures refer to UK.

• Using 1 l. of petrol in a vehicle produces about 2.31 kg of CO2
• Carbon Offsetting schemes (where you can "buy" offset of CO2 you've used for say air travel) charge around £ 9 / tonne of CO2 - equivalent to 0.9 pence / kg.
• Petrol Duty in the UK is of the order of £ 0.50 / l. (thats a low figure - it's a bit old, and for the lowest tax band of petrol)

So -

1. 1 l. petrol produces 2.31 kg CO2.
2. To offset this would cost (2.31 X 0.9) = 2.08 pence.
3. Fuel tax duty paid on this 1 l. of petrol = 50 pence (or more)

Therefore - if we used only 10% - 5 p. - of the fuel tax duty to support carbon offset schemes, that would offset MORE THAN double the CO2 produced.

So, drive that Range Rover with pride - any prudent administration would surely use the revenue from fuel duty to offset the carbon dioxide produced, and the rest of the money for general good works for the country. Electric cars? Unpatriotic!"

[ruffy]

I'm suffering a bit of a moral dilemma here as to whether the cost of fuel is high enough or not. I am, however, completely certain that I'm fed up of the massive tax burden placed on us in general and huge amout of duty taken from fuel costs so I did sign the petition.

Petition to: Reduce Fuel duty to bring fuel prices back to an acceptable level.

They dont wont you to use less fuel! they wont to charge you more to use it!
What would they do if everyone in the country only used cars ect for really important trips for six months! how much revenue lost!
Think that they might act !

[DIVE BUDDHA]

Quoting from a very wise chappie in another thread -
"Just a very quick "back of an envelope" calculation - figures refer to UK.

• Using 1 l. of petrol in a vehicle produces about 2.31 kg of CO2
• Carbon Offsetting schemes (where you can "buy" offset of CO2 you've used for say air travel) charge around £ 9 / tonne of CO2 - equivalent to 0.9 pence / kg.
• Petrol Duty in the UK is of the order of £ 0.50 / l. (thats a low figure - it's a bit old, and for the lowest tax band of petrol)

So -

1. 1 l. petrol produces 2.31 kg CO2.
2. To offset this would cost (2.31 X 0.9) = 2.08 pence.
3. Fuel tax duty paid on this 1 l. of petrol = 50 pence (or more)

Therefore - if we used only 10% - 5 p. - of the fuel tax duty to support carbon offset schemes, that would offset MORE THAN double the CO2 produced.

So, drive that Range Rover with pride - any prudent administration would surely use the revenue from fuel duty to offset the carbon dioxide produced, and the rest of the money for general good works for the country. Electric cars? Unpatriotic!"

youve gotta rememeber though how else can the government ministers

afford those second homes and have a nice 60k a year wage basic!

they are squeezing the life out of the country

[SilvaFish]

what actualy does the government make in taxes per litre! ?

isnt it 65% fuel tax +vat as well ! which makes it around 80 % tax

im sure i read in the paper that out of every £10 of fuel £8 of it goes to the

treasury in tax!

im all for being green and trying to do my bit on reducing the carbon footprint

i wonder if the biggest polluting nation on the globe is putting up fuel taxes to

offset envioromental issues? yes america? i dought they are !

It's actually China and India now, the biggest users, and America have raised their taxes on fuel.

I agree with what is said above about only using fuel where necessary.

I've even started to car-share down to divetrips!

[Sonicthediver]

The mountain of corpses would produce some unplesant smells and pollutants, however I dont think they would produce a major amount of CO2, only trouble is the maths don't add up, there aren't enough chav's and benefit scroungers in this country (yet) to make up 60% of the worlds population.

As CO2 levels are lower now than they have been over the last 70,000,000 years, I would say that "carbon footprints" and a lot of similar bo££ocks that is often quoted in the press should be disregarded as uninformed and made up crap, and if its from a politician, a total and compleat lie.

That said on economic, and only on economic grounds, I am contemplating running my f*%king great 4x4 on vegtable oil.

[Finless]

im all for being green and trying to do my bit on reducing the carbon footprint

Lobbocks to that. I'm 50 and couldn't give a toss.

1. The world will be a much nicer place without humans on it.
2. I want a big FCUK off car with a powerful motor.
3. I'll die happy knowing all those gobby loud mouth violent twats around the world are going to get theirs!
4. I hope they get old before they 'get theirs'!
5. No. NOT bitter and twisted.



ps: Should I prove to be VERY long lifed or lived then I quite fancy living in a post apocolyptic world.

FINLESS CROSS MAX