New car tax (CO2)

[colinicky]

Originally Posted by gpj

yes, you're quite right!
i've just booked my parking space outside the polling station. . . .

Sorry but those spaces are "Permit" holders only Pay the fine please

[Jimbo200SX]

Originally Posted by Woz

It's a great big non-news event.

43% of people will see an increase.

That means 57% wont. But if the headline was put as "57% of drivers won't see an increase in car tax" then that's not quite as grabbing, is it?

Fair enough, but presumably that's 43% of total car users, not 43% of people who own cars built after 2001?
If this is case than I would imagine that the percentage of people affected who own cars made after 2001 would be a lot higher?

Its ridiculous to think that the rate for a car I was looking at is 3 times what I pay now, despite my car probably putting out higher emissions.

IMHO the 'green' road tax is b***ocks, because people will just drive old s**theaps that cough out allsorts of fumes to avoid the new tax.

[gpj]

Originally Posted by colinicky

Sorry but those spaces are "Permit" holders only Pay the fine please

humph. . . .doctor on call usually works. . . . . .

[bythesea]

Originally Posted by Jimbo200SX

IMHO the 'green' road tax is b***ocks, because people will just drive old s**theaps that cough out allsorts of fumes to avoid the new tax.

Good point and very true, cars excempt from tax i.e. 'classics' {anything over 25 yrs I believe} are fuel hungry and pollute a damn sight more than most new landrovers

[Pioneer 10]

Originally Posted by turbanator

Does this really surprise you?
At the risk of someone invoking Godwin's law, this is a classic government strategy. Pick on a few minorities that most of us can vilify, e.g. city driven 4x4's, then extend it a bit, big cars, then anything that's not a Smart Car, then before long the only people driving cars are those that make the rules.

And yet they (the politicians) still drive around in their less than two year old Gas Guzzling Jags etc that WE the taxpayers are paying for! (not just the RFL, but their fuel, their insurance, their car, their garage, their servicing...)

How many of them drive around in Smart type cars?

[Rovingshark]

Originally Posted by Finless

It is long past time when the RFL should have been scrapped and replaced by a tax on fuel so that the heaviest users contribute the heaviest amount.

True. So true that it was done in about 1918.
About 1933 they reintroduced RFL whilst forgetting to remove fuel duty.

Let's do as you suggest, add yet more duty to fuel and wait a few years for RFL to be introduced again.
(This was irony, btw)

RS

[Finless]

Originally Posted by Woz

It's a great big non-news event.

43% of people will see an increase.

That means 57% wont. But if the headline was put as "57% of drivers won't see an increase in car tax" then that's not quite as grabbing, is it?

I disagree, well, not with your logic, but the fact that on the news this morning they were quoting the number "9,000,000 motorists" so weren't even relying on %s?

[Digger]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Digger heads home to drive a car with the carbon footprint of belgium. A 2.8 injection gas guzzling tank of a car, made in 1986. Ha ha ha ha ha.

I'm getting paranoid though. I think they're coming for me soon...

Digs.

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by RonProwse

just saw that 9 million people will be effected and the scumbags of a govenment are going to raise 1 billion pounds, trouble is this is not your large city bound 4x4 but your average family car.

Where will it end? i suppose they have to fund thier second homes and plasma TV's from John Lewis somehow!

When will people wake up FFS

My 2.8ltr Merc engined 4X4 has exactly the same emisions as the Merc Estate car and the Merc People carrier with the same engine.


My 3.2ltr Shogan Diesel has the same emisions as my wifes low presure Turbo Petrol Saab 93.


They are just talking bolocks and gullable twats are falling for it left right and centre.


OH you nasty man driving a big 4X4

Hang on WTF is going on???? you'r tax is the same as my Ford Focus Automatic


Oh how i laughed my tits off.


ATB

Mark

[aclivity]

Just a moment of pedantry:

The Road Fund License (i.e. hypothecated funds from taxation on vehicles that pay towards building and maintaining the roads) was scrapped in the UK in 1936.

Since 1936 the tax collected has formed part of general taxation, and is called the Vehicle Excise Duty.

Here endeth the lesson.