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Old 27-08-08, 03:14 PM
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and the 1st atomic bomb tests were going to set off a firestorm that would ignite all the air in the world. It's only a matter of time before Russia and America decide to have WW3 or the Iranians kick it off when they Nuke Israel. Personally I doubt that the risk is very high and doubt even more if anyone would stop it based on a theory.
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i think the black hole was created and i know where it is...


...it sits just under the till in the shop sucking the money out ;-)
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Let them go ahead regardless of the risks, I say!

If nothing else a black hole should enable us to resolve our "rubbish disposal problems" and leave a clean planet before it is destroyed.

Hmmm, when exactly is this test? I think I'll leave work early and go home and give the old chap a good wash. I shall head towards my doom knob first just in case a black hole is shaggable.
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if you met a space traveler how could you tell if they were matter or anti matter before you shook their hand?
If they were anti-matter then the air around them would react long before they got near enough to shake hands.

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If they were anti-matter then the air around them would react long before they got near enough to shake hands.

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Not if you met in space? They are aliens, afterall?
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It seems like the Black Hole is at least DIR compliant!
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Not if you met in space? They are aliens, afterall?
But we aren't. The only time I use breathing equipment is underwater (also matter).

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Hi,

Yes the scientists are arrogant and there is risk.

I wrote the following post to a similar question on Yahoo:

Former Nuclear Safety Officer Walter L. Wagner discovered flaws with CERN's safety arguments. He believes that the Large Hadron Collider could create dangerous particles that might destroy Earth, so he filed a law suit to require proof of safety. [1]


In response, CERN scientists created a safety report in 2008 that argues no real chance of danger. [2]


After review, German Astrophysicist Dr. Rainer Plaga argues that CERN's new report does not prove safety. Dr. Plaga proposes that CERN follow additional safety procedures to help reduce the danger, including proceeding slowly. [3]


On August 14th, CERN's Dr. Jonathan Ellis stated that there is no real danger and they will not proceed slowly, the will begin collisions in a few weeks. [4]



Another German scientist, Professor Dr. Otto E. Rössler theorizes that if micro black holes are created in the Large Hadron Collider, they could grow large enough to destroy Earth in just years or decades. [5]
Dr. Rössler requests that an emergency safety conference be held before collisions begin. He is due to meet Swiss President Pascal Couchepin to discuss safety concerns.

[1] Legal Room | Walter L. Wagner | Citizens Against the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) US Federal Lawsuit Filings - Walter L. Wagner

[2] The safety of the LHC The safety of the LHC, Web Site - CERN

[3] http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/...808.1415v1.pdf On the potential catastrophic risk from metastable quantum-black holes produced at particle colliders - Rainer Plaga Rebuttal

[4] LHC Facts » Blog Archive » CERN’s Dr. Ellis tells only half of the story CERN’s Dr. Ellis tells only half of the story - JTankers

[5] http://www.wissensnavigator.com/docu...oeroessler.pdf A Rational and Moral and Spiritual Dilemma - Otto E. Rōssler Safety Counter Arguments
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Former Nuclear Safety Officer Walter L. Wagner discovered flaws with CERN's safety arguments.
So an American is trying to stop the Europeans from overtaking the US research in this subject....


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I browsed over the web-site and it's wonderfully american to be told that writing to your congressman can stop something happening in Switzerland.

They really do think they own the world.
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