V weight characteristics

[JAG]

Originally Posted by aquayle

Next question .. how do you secure a V weight?

Put a couple of layers of gaffer tape round then and slot betwee the twins, this helps them grip a little. With the backplate in place they won't move.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by warmwaterdiver

bugger, back to searching the archives....mutter mutter

Before you do, try v weights. One step at a time and all that.

[GLOC]

Originally Posted by aquayle

Next question .. how do you secure a V weight?

They sit between the tanks, and between the tanks and the back plate, and unless you lose the BP, you won't lose the weight

Ian, you beat me....

[andy_chesney]

Originally Posted by aquayle

Next question .. how do you secure a V weight?

Mine has two holes drilled through 9" apart, one at top and bottom of v weight, I've then put it on the bolts of the twinning bands and screwed it on. Job done

[turbanator]

Originally Posted by GLOC

They sit between the tanks, and between the tanks and the back plate, and unless you lose the BP, you won't lose the weight

Ah, THAT'S why my shot v-weight was a failure.

A tailweight goes in the same position as a v-weight, but hangs down from the bottom band.

I agree with JAG tho', one thing at a time.

[warmwaterdiver]

Originally Posted by Garf

I was a big fan of them until I did the DIR thing.
Combine a V weight with a set of fabers and try to get flat trim and you will nose dive into the ground without a tailweight. At least, IMHO.

Thats my concern really, I think I'm right on the limits of the correct balance point. If I do use V weights and remove from my integrated, then in theory the CoG rises, as do my feet

mmmmm, Phil's patented fin design (heavy fins) springs to mind

EDIT: forgot to mention earlier, I use 8lb/4kg at the moment

[GLOC]

Originally Posted by warmwaterdiver

Phil's patented fin design (heavy fins) springs to mind

That's 'cos Phil is too tight to buy some ankle weights! Well, he has Jetfins now....

[warmwaterdiver]

Originally Posted by turbanator

Ah, THAT'S why my shot v-weight was a failure.
A tailweight goes in the same position as a v-weight, but hangs down from the bottom band.
I agree with JAG tho', one thing at a time.

mmmmm, so the tailweight goes between the boots type area?

as Richie is lending me a 2kg V, then perhaps I should get a 2kg P knocked up with the lead shot I've got, and give that a try

[MATTBIN]

Originally Posted by warmwaterdiver

Thats my concern really, I think I'm right on the limits of the correct balance point. If I do use V weights and remove from my integrated, then in theory the CoG rises, as do my feet
mmmmm, Phil's patented fin design (heavy fins) springs to mind

If I dive my 12's (valves up) or my 10's (long skinny cylinders) valves up with the same weight in my belt the 10's feel nose heavy, any removal of weight from my belt will increase this I think. So tail weights, hmmmmm!
When I removed my weight belt I couldnt get my feet under water, if I removed just a bit off the belt I could hold my stops but was very foot light. So I cant see a V weight helping at all, apart from getting the weight off my spine. Lowering the cylinders of course means I wont be able to reach the valves.

Boots???? wash your mouth out.

Matt

[Clare Gledhill]

Any change to your weighting will be different and will require you to make subtle alterations to how you hold yourself in the water. If you use a P weight or V weight when you are used to having the weight lower down on a belt then you will have to extend your legs a little to make up for it (as in the Centre of Gravity drill you mention).

Even if the weighting is better, it will probably feel uncomfortable for a time until you get used to it. Tell yourself that you will do at least ten dives and THEN assess how you feel - rather than say on day one that it feels difficult - it will

Once you learn to move your leg/foot position to accomodate weight distribution changes though you will find that you can pretty much do what you want and hold trim. I'm happy to dive with V chunks, P weights, tail weights or even a weight belt (which have their uses too).

HTH