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Old 12-01-03, 05:50 PM
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Can't let you get away with that! The cuff dump is regarded here in Sweden as a relic of a bygone age. Nobody has one here any more. The autodump has made them redundant, in the same way as the BC and later wing vests replaced the Fenzy. It's called progress. :sofa:
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Steady on now JP lets not start a mass argument on your first day.....
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you know me mate! Never one to let politeness get in the way of a good argument.
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I never had a problem raising my arm to dump... bit unorthodox I guess in this high tech world. But missing the point here re Phil's redundancy point.  A good one that is never addressed.  Except to say, open the seal and get wet.  I'm considering a second cuff for that very reason.  Never got on with auto dumps and antique as they are, cuffs are simple, obvious and tend to work most the time.  not had a blockage yet.
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Hmm. I used to swear by cuff dumps until I recently upgraded my suit to a neoprene which has an auto apeks low profile. I was ever so skeptical, but I will say Ammers talked me into sticking with it.
I now think that If you know how to use them, they are magic. If it's properly set up, you should only need to adjust it slightly every so often through the dive. I had a dive on Saturday (Dosthill/Tamworth - 48 minutes!!) where I didn't even have to push it to vent once (and I use my suit for bouyancy.)

In this game it's whatever you're happy with that works the best. If you're suited to cuff dumps, then fine. If you're suited to Auto-dumps, again, that's fine.
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Have to put my vote in for autodumps.  I also find they work very well.  It is also very easy to adjust the amount of air retained in the suit by closing the dump just a few clicks (Ideal with a compressable undersuit).  I only adjust mine rarely, usually just opening fully for my ascent.

Also I have rarely had to push it to manually dump (Mainly before I got used to it).

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I had an Apex it didnt work it wouldent dump

I got a Si-Tec it works briliently never had a probelm

Mind you there is a slim posibuility I became an infinatly better diver in the week it took them to supply and fit the new Si-tec valve. That is inspite the fact I had no dry suit so could not dive ??

Perhaps its's a revalation. I should start a cult


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Least, I think that's what he said?

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yep gotta go with the auto, my personal preference is too leave it wide open the whole dive, as I tend to try and stay horizontal all of the time the suit doesn't vent until I either roll slightly raising that particular shoulder or the decrease in ambient pressure does it for me.. either way it works perfectly. I'll shut it down completely on the surface and then pump the suit full of air.. feels luverly around the nads when I do that... sigh.....
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SiTek low profile auto dump(make sure your hoses are compatible etc).Good stuff,I've only ever known Ammers who's had trouble with one(anybody else and it might seem suprising!)You could always find yourself a "proper"manual dump with a pull cord.Dumps what you want,when you want.Hobby.
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or maybe buy a video about diving...save all the effort.  Pick up your arm and dump!!! auto dump? what next??? auto bouayancy control?? Ph, did n't someone invent that already for carribean divers?
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