UK Cylinder Regulations

[Eddie]

Hi Guys and Gals, can anybody get hold of some stickers for me? I need at least four of each stickers for my cylinders and you can't get them here in Holland! 4 x Compressed Air, and 4 x Breathing Air, last time I was in England they refussed to fill my cylinders as they had no stickers on them..Any other UK rules I should know about???

[Dominic]

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Ehh..? What's the difference? Air is air is air...

All you need on your cylinders is a single cylinder with the green diamond etc. You certainly don't need two stickers - anyone who says you do is probably hoping to rip you off by making you pay double.

I can supply you with the official IDEST stickers no problem, they're 50p each plus p&amp;p.

[Eddie]

The &quot;saleman&quot; in the Plymouth dive shop said I needed to have &quot;one for breathing air and one for compressed air&quot; on my tanks....I thought he was talking shit...if you can send me some I will send the money to you...
if you email me I shall give you my address...
cheers matey...

[darthmoll]

what are official IDST stickers, when they are at home?

[Dominic]

IDEST = Inspectorate for Diving Equipment Servicing and Testing

[darthmoll]

I knew that, but I did not think they had anything official to do cylinder-marking requirements

[John Gulliver]

I presume those of us coming from Sweden to dive at the Farnes and St Abbs in September will need to have these stickers on our cylinders. Will I be able to pick some up at LIDS on Sunday? If so, where?


(Edited by John Gulliver at 12:41 pm on Feb. 26, 2003)

[Dominic]

No, it's not that the stickers are official because they're IDEST, I mean that the stickers are the ones officially approved by IDEST.

And generally speaking, if it's good enough for IDEST, it's good enough for your dive shop. Unless they get snotty about you not buying stickers from them at X pounds each...

[Paul Oliver]

Hi

The changes are to conform to European standards so they should IMHO not be any different to requirements abroad. This is from the BSAC web site:-

BS 5430 PARTS 1 &amp; 3 WITHDRAWN

On March 25th 2002 BS 5430 Parts 1 and 3, which concern the testing of cylinders, were withdrawn and replaced by two new European standards.

BS 5430 Part 1 has been replaced by BS EN 1968:2002 (steel cylinders) and Part 3 has been replaced with BS EN 1802:2002 (aluminium cylinders). In view of the lack of guidance from either HSE or BSI, IDEST have advised their approved test houses to implement the new standards by 31st August 2002.

Changes:

The test periods have changed from four years to 5 years and inspection period from two years to 2.5 years.

The cylinder must have the test date stamped on it, as before, but also have a stick-on label stating the date of the next test.

The 'intended contents' must also be clearly shown on the cylinder, such as Breathing Air, Nitrox or Trimix.

Any cylinders tested on the preceding standards should allow the certificate to run out and then be tested in compliance with the new standards; they should not extend their validity period.

These changes are to bring diving cylinders in line with the 10 year statutory testing for industrial gas cylinders.

These new standards now refer readers to other British Standards for guidance on stamping, labelling and colour coding of cylinders.

Regards

Paul

[Eddie]

Well either they are a bit backward here in Holland or they just don't know, I have asked quite a few dive shops for information about markings on cyliders and as far as they know it only affects cyliders for industrial use! I even asked some German dive shops and they only knew about the black and white quartering of the neck (now on my cylinders). So has Brussels made another cock up?

(Edited by Eddie at 9:36 am on Mar. 2, 2003)