Wanted, PADI OPen Water manuals

[Dundee]

HI all,

Since sprog number 2 and SWMBO are planning to do their open water training on hols in Sharm, they need the Open Water Manual (Crew Pack?)

Anybody here supply them?
I assume that they need one each?

Chris

[Conor]

Ahem, *APPLIES PADI HAT* according to PADI I believe the rule now is that each student needs a manual.

*sets fire to PADI hat and steps deftly to one side*

Some instructors will lend you manuals and accepts photocopies of the reviews. Also some instructors offer better prices for courses including the manuals. So my advice would be chose an instructor, chat to him/her, if they can lend them then perfect, or if they are ok with you procuring them yourself then talk to us or ebay, or just get them through the instructor.

Getting the right instructor is the important bit, the manuals come second to that IMHO

[aquayle]

Originally Posted by Conor

Ahem, *APPLIES PADI HAT* according to PADI I believe the rule now is that each student needs a manual.

Correct, from the PADI Q1 2006 Training Bulletin:

As announced in the Fourth Quarter 2005 Training Bulletin, effective 1 January 2006, PADI student divers and instructor candidates must have, in their possession, a personal set of current materials for study and use during the course and for reference afterward. The list of required materials appears in the Fourth Quarter 2005 Training Bulletin, as well as in individual course instructor guides in the 2006 PADI Instructor Manual (specifically, PADI Scuba Diver, Open Water Diver, Adventure Diver, Advanced Open Water Diver, Rescue Diver, Divemaster and the PADI Instructor Development course).

PADI is committed to educational excellence through student use and retention of course materials. Enforcing this new requirement becomes part of the quality assurance monitoring process. Your student divers will receive PADI Course Evaluation Questionnaires that ask specific questions regarding the educational materials they used in their course. For example, your Open Water Diver course students will be asked, “Did you have your own PADI Open Water Diver Manual and RDP for study and use during the course, and for reference after the course?” Consistent answers that indicate possible standards violations will be handled like any other quality management issue

HTH - Andy

[Brian of Aquanauts]

If you give me a call on 01752 228825 I can pop a couple in the post to ya

Bri

[Dundee]

Originally Posted by aquayle

Correct, from the PADI Q1 2006 Training Bulletin:“Did you have your own PADI Open Water Diver Manual and RDP for study and use during the course, and for reference after the course?” Consistent answers that indicate possible standards violations will be handled like any other quality management issue[/i]

HTH - Andy

Hmm, but we live in the same house, all the time, with lots of books, and we share them. Even for homework (kids). I wouldnt buy two copies of anything that sit on the same bookshelf.

"Hey, dont use my manual, use your own you cheeky 11 year old!"

Sorry. didnt mean to do that.

So its not ok to share training manuals?

Chris

[aquayle]

I guess in your case - it depends, up to the instructor at the end of the day. But I sympathise (if that helps )

[Sparky]

IMHO you could get away with having one copy of the book between the 2 of them just photo copy the knowledge reviews and get them to do them at different times, It'll also save weight on the trip out to sharm.

You may want to check with the instructor out there to see if he'll except that.

What I've found happens in the places that see a high turnaround in students is that they provide the books and then expect you to buy them when you get home, so as you have copies of the RDP.

HTH

[StephenT]

Books are worthwhile, as for the dvds........ :]

[Jim Shaw]

When I've done courses in Egypt, I've never had my own book, the centres just give you photocopies of the Knowledge reviews,
a mate of mine has just come back from Egypt, to put his kids through there open water, I gave him my book, and he photocopied the knowledge reviews, and got the kids to fill them out before going on holiday,

then they handed them into the centre, the centre then just gave the kids a quick test to make sure that they did know the stuff, and that was that, 4 dives later and the exam and that was them qualified, they qualified on the 2nd day of there holiday

I'm aware that this is totally against the way things should be done, but out there it seems that they can and do, take these kind of shortcuts all the time. This is not to say that I approve or disapprove, It's just my experiences

[Conor]

As far as I know this is a recent ruling and so its hard to say whether and/or when it will be implemented by a given school, hence I'd reccomend doing nothing until ou talk to the instructor.......or you could waste your money