Scapa 1 June - 6 June 2008

[thirtymetres]

mmmmm this spare place is soooo tempting!

[thehappychappy]

There is Potential that Zoe cant make this either, she just bought a place in Sharm.

I Will keep you guy updated, and I will try to find a buddy to bring along myself.

However if anybody is interested in Daves space but would like to bring a buddy then let me know.

Davie

[neilh]

Well my lad's grown out of his Scapa t-shirt and broke the shark-on-a-stick[1] from the last trip this morning, so I definitely have to go back to get another one now

I know a few of you on the trip and know some people have been to Scapa before and I know for some it's their first trip, so I thought I'd kick off a little list update with a comment on what sort of depths I'd be comfortable with, that I've been before and what I'd especially like to dive on the trip.

I know that the crew up there will make sure we have a belter of a trip regardless, but it would be good to see whether anyone has a particular wish for the trip (Aside from actually finding the wrecks this time around )

Originally Posted by KeyLimePie

1. SPACE AVAILABLE
2. Moz
3. NeilH - been before, hope to be trimix and deco qualified for the trip but otherwise will be 30M stuff Would like to do the Koln and the Kronprinz Wilhelm again.
4. Buoyant Babe
5. Eeyore
6. Thehappychappy
7. Thehappychappy's mate (Zoe)
8. Jo Rawley
9. Weazlez
10. Nick S
11. Robin Jones
12. Hebails

[1] I told you it was a cracking present Moz - but even I've been surprised!

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by neilh

I know a few of you on the trip and know some people have been to Scapa before and I know for some it's their first trip, so I thought I'd kick off a little list update with a comment on what sort of depths I'd be comfortable with

Anyone have or know where I can get a list/map of which wrecks are in the flow & which are not

[thehappychappy]

I've Currently got Scottish Sub Aqua Master Diver Ticket, 40 Metres on Air with Decompression.

So that's my depth limit.

Any wrecks will do, to be honest, shallow or 40 Metres(I know that's shallow to some), as long as everybody can dive and have fun, that's what matters.

Davie

[neilh]

Originally Posted by Eeyore

Anyone have or know where I can get a list/map of which wrecks are in the flow & which are not

I have a map with some info on, but it's a bit big to scan and put a picture up. I'm sure Helen and Hazel can give the full details, but listing them from the map there are:

SMS Coln
SMS Dresden
SMS Brummer
SMS Karlsruhe
SMS Kronprinz Wilhelm
SMS Konig
SMS Markgraf
V83
S54
Bayern gun turrets
F2 / YC21
HMS Roedean
Inverlane
Gobernador Bories
Doyle
Tabarka
James Barrie
Strathgary
UB116
Thames

There's certainly plenty there to keep everyone happy (unless you like reefs )

[Eeyore]

Originally Posted by neilh

I have a map with some info on, but it's a bit big to scan and put a picture up. I'm sure Helen and Hazel can give the full details, but listing them from the map there are:

SMS Coln
SMS Dresden
SMS Brummer
SMS Karlsruhe
SMS Kronprinz Wilhelm
SMS Konig
SMS Markgraf
V83
S54
Bayern gun turrets
F2 / YC21
HMS Roedean
Inverlane
Gobernador Bories
Doyle
Tabarka
James Barrie
Strathgary
UB116
Thames

There's certainly plenty there to keep everyone happy (unless you like reefs )

Cheers Neil,
Which are in & which are out of the flow?

[jorawley]

Originally Posted by Eeyore

Cheers Neil,
Which are in & which are out of the flow?

those are the ones in the flow

sue if your genuinely interested drop me a PM and we can sort money.

[jorawley]

as everyone seems to be getting carried away with the 'its everyones trip', where are the wrecks??? and 'only 40 metres for me' this is how it works as a standard scapa trip:

The Big 7 - battleships & cruisers:

battleships konig, kronprinz & margraf are all upside down,
easiest to find guns and metal u will recognise aside from the hull is kronprinz whose Max depth is 38m, shallowest point is in about 20m - yes they are THAT big. (Mark & Konig i've managed 44m max). Similar to a reef u can choose your depth.

cruisers on their sides with max depth of 36m (a cpl are slightly shallower) are brummer, dresden, coln and karlsruhe again so big u can do 4 dives on EACH of them and again choose your depth.

Blockships in less than 20m with good viz but strong current, doable on only a few select tide tables - tabarka, gober, inver & doyle

as the konig i believe is still off limits that is already 10 possibilities of the allocated 12 dives...
You DONT need trimix, a twinset, or even a stage if you dont want to its personal choice.
You WILL need a good torch(es), SMB's and to all calm down and take a deep breath....

I only mentioned mixed gas (as in helium) for those that are qualified and intend using it so H&H can have enough ordered and on board.

Personal recommendations having spent several weeks in the flow are: Brummer, Coln, Tarbarka, Kronprinz, Dresden in that order.

H&H have all the books, diagrams, wreck maps and more info than u can shake a very large stick at all onboard.

[Buoyant Babe]

Originally Posted by jorawley

as everyone seems to be getting carried away with the 'its everyones trip', where are the wrecks??? and 'only 40 metres for me' this is how it works as a standard scapa trip...

...You WILL need a good torch(es), SMB's and to all calm down and take a deep breath....

I'm not sure I undertstand your comments Jo. I'm easy as I hope to have my 'mix ticket by then. Sounds like there is plenty to keep us all happy