Numtpy muppets definition

[Juz]

Let the masses decide that I'm right!

Come on, you will wont you.........................

Juz

[dave archer]

Nah, sorry Juz, IMO...

Numpty = Muppet = someone doing something stupid which they have no excuse for

Neither are same as... Newbie = person relatively new to diving

Sometimes Newbies do stupid things, BUT this does not make them Numpties/Muppets, as they have the excuse that as yet they don't know better.

Dave.

[Padowan]

Hmm, actually I define a Newbie as a novice, and it's not a derogatory term. But I use the terms Numpty and Muppet to describe more experienced people who are either:

Lacking knowledge appropriate to their experience/qualifications: Numpty
Lacking skills appropriate to their experience/qualifications: Muppet

This is the difference in my book....

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Padowan

Hmm, actually I define a Newbie as a novice, and it's not a derogatory term. But I use the terms Numpty and Muppet to describe more experienced people who are either:

Lacking knowledge appropriate to their experience/qualifications: Numpty
Lacking skills appropriate to their experience/qualifications: Muppet

This is the difference in my book....

Snap

[Andrew H]

Just because someone is a newbie doesn't mean they can't be a numpty/muppet. Some people are numpties all day every day.

At work, having been accused of being muppets, I wanted to know if we were to be assigned a muppet, or if we could choose one for ourselves. Which muppet would you be? Which muppet would you assign to your fellow YD'ers? (Be Carefull!)

I'd like to be one of the sarcastic old guys in the box.

Andrew

[HelenM]

Originally Posted by dave archer

Nah, sorry Juz, IMO...

Numpty = Muppet = someone doing something stupid which they have no excuse for

Neither are same as... Newbie = person relatively new to diving

Sometimes Newbies do stupid things, BUT this does not make them Numpties/Muppets, as they have the excuse that as yet they don't know better.

Dave.

Well put that man...!

[greekbird]

Originally Posted by Andrew H

Just because someone is a newbie doesn't mean they can't be a numpty/muppet. Some people are numpties all day every day.

At work, having been accused of being muppets, I wanted to know if we were to be assigned a muppet, or if we could choose one for ourselves. Which muppet would you be? Which muppet would you assign to your fellow YD'ers? (Be Carefull!)

I'd like to be one of the sarcastic old guys in the box.

Andrew

i dont know about you, but one of them is deffinatelly Doug

otherwise i agree with padowan...
greekbird

[Mr T.]

Originally Posted by dave archer

Nah, sorry Juz, IMO...

Numpty = Muppet = someone doing something stupid which they have no excuse for

Neither are same as... Newbie = person relatively new to diving

Sometimes Newbies do stupid things, BUT this does not make them Numpties/Muppets, as they have the excuse that as yet they don't know better.

Dave.

Or rather, Newbies/Novices (both non-derogatory) can do both Numpty and Muppet things - one through inexperience (Numpty) and another through being stupid (Muppet).

It is just to be hoped that they try not to combine both acts at the same time!

[MattS]

Looks like I am going to get out voted on this one. But I still think my way makes more sense.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=muppet
Muppets have to be, controlled, or told / instructed what to do and surely part of their appeal is their naivity.

Numpty appears to have originated in Scotland so it must be offensive ;-)
You can find it in the Scottish Vernacular Dictionary
http://www.firstfoot.com/php/glossar...x.php?letter=n
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...erm=numpty&r=f

Anyhow I will try to use correctly whichever wins the poll.



Go on you know you wnat to.
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[Mr T.]

With all, ahem, respect to the Urban Dictionary, the term 'Numpty' predates any use in an urban, or indeed land-based environment.

The term has its origins in the Royal Navy and originally meant the most inexperienced deckhand (rating/seaman) aboard a ship; one whom needed constant overseeing (by his more experienced shipmates/salts) in his duties (from hemp unpicking to tarring the decks) and had to be taught his basic seamanship from the 'deck' upwards - working with lines/ropes, knots, swabbing etc.

A Muppet is a latterday concoction denoting someone whose actions are so far beyond the pale or outside the expected norms as to be 'cartoon or puppet animated'.