Ammers on the List

[MATTBIN]

Unless you have training on an Inspiration you cant see their web site - is that correct?
Another web site is claiming that AM has lit a real big fire this time, but we mere mortals arent privvy, sometjing to do with simulating a CO2 hit on land through getting smashed on booze. Anyone on here fancy a cut and paste job so we can see her latest rant?
Matt

[Dr Stevil]

<font color='#0000FF'>Also been mentioned on bsac forum today in relation to YD, are you sure you want to go there Matt?

[MATTBIN]

Steve I saw that post on the Bsac forum, I dont feel it 'correct' to post there anymore as I am no longer a member but I do read it occasionaly. I thought Terry was being deliberately provocative.

Incidentally Herts Uni Scuba has just been dropped by the Uni and become a Bsac club in its own right as the Uni felt it was too elitist and costly per member. They are looking for members, so I might reconsider re-joining Bsac later in the year via them as its a new club with little in the way of in-club 'rules' I suspect.
250 dives/5 yrs - Ocean Diver, nice DO/TO set-up NOT!
What did you call me - chronologically challenged indeed.

Anyway back to AM, I'd be interested to read what she has posted after such a long absence from any of the boards. It seems, from UKDiving (Dorothea Page, Inland sites), that a few 'secrets' have been let out of the bag regarding RB's so I think it might be in all our interests to know them for future reference perhaps. But it seems that it/they are being kept behind closed doors.

Matt

[Lou]

Hmmmm, the problem with Ukdiving forum is that it is anonymous. &nbsp;So all the big-ups for the one who shall not be named could all come from the same person, as could all the slaggings. &nbsp;Seeing as last week on Ukdiving AM was seriously ill and hadn't been able to post let alone dive for 3 months this is a bit of an about turn. &nbsp;It just goes to show that you can't believe much of what you read there.

I do however agree that *if* something groundbreaking has been posted it would be good to hear about it. &nbsp;I am sure that someone on here would be good enough to keep us in the loop!

Cheers

Lou

[MATTBIN]

from the Darkside,
Vic has been asked to do a cut &amp; paste and refused, the reason is that the Inspiration users want a free and frank discusion without interference from know nothings!
Seems fair, after all I'd be happy to fork out £4k and then find I'd bought something different from what I was led to believe.
Matt

[Dr Stevil]

<font color='#0000FF'>Ahem... Chronologically advanced, &nbsp;a bit like my good self &nbsp;

As for the other subject, I personally wouldn't wish any harm on her but I would not be surprised at all to hear she'd seriously hurt herself through unsafe diving practices.

Chee-az
Steve

[MATTBIN]

Trouble is Steve we all do un-safe things if looked at through a perpective of a few years ago. We drive cars at speeds that were thought unsafe 50yrs ago, time changes the perspective and 'maybe' some will look back at our diving practices in a few years and think how conservative (or maybe adventurous!) we were.
Her injury was supposed to be un-related to diving (ala JJ perhaps?) and as Lou says very serious but she still seems to dive, can she have medical clearance, how did she get on the Inspiration course carrying such a well documented back problem, who knows?

She has raised questions again and is pushing the boundary, I hope only the wary and informed follow.

Matt

[Dr Stevil]

<font color='#0000FF'>Unsafe, wot you mean like 140mph on your nipponesque fibre-glass rocket ship? ah..those were the days, before speed cameras became so popular... &nbsp; &nbsp;

True, goalposts change and some things become acceptable e.g. the history of nitrox. but some things I don't imagine will ever come to be considered as appropriate e.g. solo diving - by which  I mean all on your own with no surface cover.

As for medical clearance, the advantage for mavericks diving outside the scope of any agency is that they don't need any form of medical clearance, or to justify anything they do to anyone else, which I imagine is a large part of the attraction.

Anyhoo, I'll leave it at that, I wouldn't want to upset those in their &quot;YBOD ivory tower&quot; with my meagre OC knowledge, , &quot;be I ever so 'umble&quot;
Yours faithfully
U. Heep esq.  

[MATTBIN]

I ride British and before that German, Japanese indeed.

True those outside the Agency thing can do as they like but when they get training e.g. Tri-mix or Nitrox, dont they have to sign a 'medically fit' form as per 'normal' agency requirements or does Inspiration training not require this? Not trying to start a fight just wondering how anyone with such a poor medical history could get training from a responsible body.
Matt

[Dominic]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (MATTBIN @ April 10 2003,12:01)]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Seems fair, after all I'd be happy to fork out £4k and then find I'd bought something different from what I was led to believe.

Crossposted from D-net:

One could make the argument that the best way to make an informed decision before buying a unit is to take the training first.

Then you know how to use it, get access to the list, and you haven't spent thousands buying a unit you might decide not to trust...