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Regulators and Cylinders: Discuss Breathing Air & O2 clean Tank Stickers in the Dive Kit and Equipment forums: I got stung four quid for a "breathing air" sticker by the LDS three fills before the bastard tank failed ...

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Old 09-11-04, 05:47 PM
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I got stung four quid for a "breathing air" sticker by the LDS three fills before the bastard tank failed its test!! Found the cheapies on the BSAC site after needless to say.

Should be what you need Neil. You can stick something over the BSAC bit if you are bothered about it (he he)!!!!

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We buy the stickers for £1 each, and when we have to put them on tanks we require a £2 donation to the RNLI or project AWARE. Seems the only fair way really, and that way everyone benfits. We have a similar principle with odds and sods of O rings and little odd jobs like putting regs together from internet purchases etc etc! Try suggesting that!

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02 cleaning

OK guys

I've just spoken to the LDS owner and found that the course has been pushed back to Jan. Funny that he called while we've been discussing this!

Anyways, I asked him exactly what the course qualified you to do with respect to the 02 cleaning of cylinders and he's response was," not entirely sure and need to check that with PADI", but he also said that, "if you were to come into the shop midweek when we're not busy then I would let you clean your cylinders for free if you cleaned one of ours at the same time".

He also said that the whole thing was a bit academic, since most people didn't have the ultrasound bath need for proper 02 cleaning anyway.

So, I await the shops response from PADI and wil post up what I find in due course!

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As an aside there is now a LDS in Glasgow which refuses to dispense O2 into cylinders which have not been cleaned by themselves! So should you have the misfortune (!) to have had them cleaned elsewhere then they will not co-operate. They say that some cylinders certified as clean by some other DS (names of which were given, but for obvious reasons I will not repeat here) were found to be anything but and they will not endanger their staff filling them etc etc. I explained that I could easily get my tanks O2 cleaned at this particular LDS, go home, empty them, fill them with petrol, empty them and then come back to get a nitrox/O2 fill without saying what had been in them. By their assumption the tanks are clean (as they cleaned them) and they would fill them !!! The LDS say they would trust the diver not to do anything naughty like that !! Makes a mockery of the whole thing. Cynics would say it is merely a business reason ie use us or get lost if you want a nitrox fill.
Yup, know the shop, and it's a bit of a downer that one. Still there is one other shop that you can use that will honour other certificates.

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He also said that the whole thing was a bit academic, since most people didn't have the ultrasound bath need for proper 02 cleaning anyway.
Some of us do but I couldn't get a cylinder in it.
I assume it's only the valve bits that get ultrasonics.

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There is NO legal standard for annual O2 cleaning. Not a jot (and I have checked with HSE). Equipment has to be O2 clean and that's it. There is no reason why you could not go and pick up a bottle of RS citrus degreaser, an ultrasonic bath and some crystolube and do the job yourself then affix your own sticker. Then again you could always just take the whole lot down to Divequip and get it done for 11 quid like I do and save yourself the hassle.
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You sometimes see these stickers on Ebay. I wondered myself why not just buy them, stick them on and there you go. Irresponsible but fact that you can buy them (and fill your cylinders with anything in the interim) does leave the system open to abuse.
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There is NO legal standard for annual O2 cleaning. Not a jot (and I have checked with HSE). Equipment has to be O2 clean and that's it. There is no reason why you could not go and pick up a bottle of RS citrus degreaser, an ultrasonic bath and some crystolube and do the job yourself then affix your own sticker. Then again you could always just take the whole lot down to Divequip and get it done for 11 quid like I do and save yourself the hassle.

Hmmmmm that £11 for one tank sure but when you have 18 tanks??? like I do. And dont forget they charge you for the manifold separately. £9.00 at my LDS so a twin set is £29.00 to 02 clean. I am well up for this cert card it would pay for its self inside a year. What the hell do you need a US bath for on a tank??? There is just nothing on a tank and manifold that demands US cleaning, you could do the whole thing with a toothbrush

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Hmmmmm that £11 for one tank sure but when you have 18 tanks??? like I do. And dont forget they charge you for the manifold separately. £9.00 at my LDS so a twin set is £29.00 to 02 clean. I am well up for this cert card it would pay for its self inside a year. What the hell do you need a US bath for on a tank??? There is just nothing on a tank and manifold that demands US cleaning, you could do the whole thing with a toothbrush

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Hmmmmm that £11 for one tank sure but when you have 18 tanks??? like I do. And dont forget they charge you for the manifold separately. £9.00 at my LDS so a twin set is £29.00 to 02 clean. I am well up for this cert card it would pay for its self inside a year. What the hell do you need a US bath for on a tank??? There is just nothing on a tank and manifold that demands US cleaning, you could do the whole thing with a toothbrush

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Who are these guys ? I am too embarrassed to say how much I paid my LDS earlier this year......

Anyone in London/Essex area recommend anyone who can get close to this price ? or even 2 or 3 times the price (and yes, that would still be a significant saving to what I paid........

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