rear / side / front mounte pony

[aclivity]

<font color='#000080'>Thanks for all of this - what started as a relatively simple question has given me a lot to think about.

To recap over the thread - at least to recap over what I have taken from it:

A pony is not a replacement for good practice and feeling comfortable with my current kit configuration;
A good buddy is still worth having (being part of a good team);
Buying a pony won't stop me moving to a different (i.e. twins) configuration in the long term;
There is no one 'right' way to sling it - as long as I am comfortable with where it is and can use it if required;
I need to lose some weight (but that's hardly news to me).

As I mentioned in my original question, I've only been diving quite a short while - 25 UK dives over 15 months or so. &nbsp;I'm not sure who said it, but somewhere in the thread I saw the comment &quot;still learning&quot; - if anything, that's my approach (in diving and in life) as I wouldn't expect to stop learning. &nbsp;If I closed my mind to new ideas I wouldn't have posted this question?

Maybe one day I'll be on this forum and expressing my opinions as stongly as everyone else, saying how I am right, and someone will remind me of this comment!

[RobK]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Robert @ May 30 2003,11:54)]

And what about those who choose to drink alcohol?
I don't have any figures but I'm sure someone has come up with something suggesting that a couple of pints the night before will increase the risk of DCS.

Absolutly.

I don't drink the night before I go diving.

Mainly because I'm weak willed and If I have 1 I'll have 10

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]
And another thing! What's a major factor in DCS - cold. Who gets cold quicker - fat or thin people?

Hmmm, that may well be true. However I find that decent underwear is better for keeping you warm than half a ton of cream cakes

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]
Not being obstreperous you understand, just bored on a Friday in the office.
Where did all the fun go?

Me too  

[markg]

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]

Total fiction.

The binding between CO and haemoglobin is effectively irreversible - the strength of the CO-Hb bond is 240 times greater than the O2-Hb bond. No matter WHAT ppO2 you get exposed to, the CO-Hb remains until the red blood cell gets destroyed.

please explain why people suffering from co poisoning are given high ppo2, i'm well confused now

[Lou]

Aaaargh!!!

WL - I did not tell you not to post. &nbsp;I did not say DIR divers don't post. &nbsp;I said that we should *all* make an effort not to swamp every single bloody question with DIR vs everyone else debates and that there should maybe be a permanent thread that these discussions could live on.

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Please read my original response to the question. The question which was asking if there were any warnings or recommendations. I am being taken to task because I insist that I don't use one..... eh? So thats justified then ?

No-one has taken you for task for not using one - you have taken others to task for using one!! &nbsp;

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]I don't believe I've used the term incorrect and I've never told anyone they are wrong. You must have me confused with someone else. I don't recall ever debating anything with you before.

The inference is given.....there is never any &quot;okay I can see where that may be useful&quot; etc. &nbsp;Only a very straight party line.

I believe that we have both been involved in threads before. &nbsp;I have had one point of view, you may have had another. &nbsp;It may not have been as apparent as this but this is something that has raised my hackles a little. &nbsp;

I certainly couldn't confuse you with someone else. &nbsp;You are too obvious for that

Regards

Lou

[Robert]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Absolutly

Is that as in Absolut'ly? I still haven't got around to trying the vodka jelly in re-useable toothpaste tubes - ideal for those long deco stops.  

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]However I find that decent underwear is better for keeping you warm than half a ton of cream cakes

You b*gger - it's going to take ages to get rid of the image of a drysuit filled with cream cakes!

Hurrah it's nearly the weekend!  

[MATTBIN]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ].I said that we should *all* make an effort not to swamp every single bloody question with DIR vs everyone else debates and that there should maybe be a permanent thread that these discussions could live on.

That's about the best thing that's been said on this thread.
How about it guys, a new section
DIR - Drum it in Repeatedly

Matt

[Andy Phillips]

Hi,

Lou, WL,

It's my fault, I got in last night and posted, bad idea.

Sorry.

Andrew

[And]

<font color='#0000FF'>Hi

Aclivity, I'm glad you got something from this thread, cos that was the point after all.

Lou, I obviously misinterpreted the 'cuckoo in the nest' phrase, my apologies. People do have questions about DIR and they sometimes get into the thread such as the fitness thing in this one, started by someone with a genuine question, not intentional. I don't know how you can prevent that. If I post in a thread I just give a matter of fact opinion, based on personal experience. Usually short and sweet admittedly, just my style. If I'm not flamed then I don't usually comment further. I will consider your point though.

'Obvious'? me? quiet mild mannered Clark Kent type! I'm hurt !

Matt, it might be an idea to have a 'is this DIR?' section but at the end of the day its all about diving no matter what box you choose to put it in.

WL

[Dominic]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (markg @ May 30 2003,12:55)]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]please explain why people suffering from co poisoning are given high ppo2, i'm well confused now

To (a) make sure that as much of the remaining, non-CO-bound haemoglobin is carrying Oxygen as possible, and (b) get Oxygen transported in solution in the plasma.

CO poisoning wipes out Haemoglobin's ability to carry Oxygen, the body is starved of Oxygen, so you give them as much Oxygen as possible.

That doesn't remove the CO from the haemoglobin, just negates its effects a bit.

CO-Hb is a permanent bond. Short of a blood transfusion, there's nothing you can do but wait for the posisoned blood cells to be broken down and excreted from the system.

[Dr Stevil]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (diving dude @ May 30 2003,10:25)]l stayed out of the dir/stroke discussions because l thought most of the dir stuff was caoomon sense, now l am labelled by gue as a crap diver, unless Chris Boardman reported it wrong.

Most people are like me, they are not anti dir but how much criticism can a person take before pushing back.

<font color='#0000FF'>Wise words Howard, according to &quot;the party line&quot; I'm not only a bad diver but should be dead by now.

Lou, very well said that there's no evidence of give and take in the pronouncements from our &quot;elite&quot; colleagues

Matt, &nbsp;threads getting sidetracked? too bloody right mate.

I guess that as our gue/dir chums stick with the boards in the face of apparent adversity, they should be commended, if only you guys would be a little less rigid in your pronouncements I'm sure things would go a lot more smoothly, how about it chaps?
Oftentimes in life it pays to be flexible.Friday afternoon philosophy spot

Chee-az
steve