Hoses Hoses Everywhere!

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Hi,
Sorry if this seems like a daft question but humor me :-)

I have an apek swivel 1st stage with 4 LP ports,
The problem is that the drysuit i've bought has the inflator fixed and feeding from the low right hand side, I thought this wouldn't be a problem but after some messing around i can't get a configuration i'm happy with and that the hoses don't look strained.

Now i obviously want to keep the regs feeding from the right as normal and the best solution i can come up with so far is:

Port 1 Primary Reg
Port 2 (28in) drysuit under right arm
port 3 Octo under right arm, (quite an acute bend very unsure about this)
port 4 BC (rather bunched up)

previously using a left hand feed it was simply 1reg, 2octo,3BC,4 drysuit and this was pretty comfortable.

Am i missing something here? or is the solution simply a longer dry suit hose or fit a swivel inflator and feed from the left??

If i can't get something i'm comfortable with then i'll just hire a suit over the weekend but would rather not ( as i'm tight :-)

Cheers

Graham

[Ian Murray]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (_G_ @ Aug. 01 2003,15:19)]The problem is that the drysuit i've bought has the inflator fixed and feeding from the low right hand side,

Try unscrewing the drysuit inflator from the inside and just swivel it around to whatever position you want it in.

Remember to tighten it back up again (or be prepared to get wet)

Regards, Ian.

[Dominic]

An octopus should be on the left. It's there for your buddy, not for you.

You should only have two DVs feeding to the right if you're on a redundant air source.

I've never encountered a drysuit inflator that couldn't be swivelled, Ian's probably right about it. If not, get it removed and replaced with a nice swivelly Apeks one

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Ian - Thanks a million, worked a treat

-Should hand tight be enough for the valve or should i use some sort of sealant?

[JohnD]

<font color='#F52887'>I agree with Dominic, the only hoses you need to have fed from one side and one side ONLY are your primary DV (from the right) unless you have left-hand feed DV's or side-exhaust DV's, and your LP hose to your BC (from the left) The left-handed feed to your octo does make good sense, try it and you wont change it back. we only do things the other way because that is what we are taught, then we dive and learn the better and more ergonomic way to do it.

[tom]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Dominic @ Aug. 01 2003,16:11)]An octopus should be on the left. It's there for your buddy, not for you.

Dominic - what's the logic here? Why does it make a difference to your buddy which side the octopus is one, as long as it's in the correct area (chest triangle)?

Not challenging the statement- just want to understand why the left is better.

Tom

[JohnD]

<font color='#F52887'>picture this in your head: you have a standard octo with the hose entering the reg from the right. mount it on your chest area hose entering from the left (the reg is now upside down), now imagine handing it to your buddy, they are now face-to-face with you with the reg right way up in their mouth. if you do it the standard way your buddy is offline with you, and the hose is a bit kinked. As you know, the best thing to do on an air-sharing ascent is to hold onto your buddy's BC and this is a lot easier. like I said, try it and see.

[Dominic]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]Why does it make a difference to your buddy which side the octopus is one, as long as it's in the correct area (chest triangle)?

Because if it's on the right side, then it'll be upside down for your buddy.
You want it on the left so it's the right way up for your buddy, as it's there for his use, not yours.
That means it's going to be upside down for you, but (a) the chances of your primary being unuseable while the occy is fine are extremely small, and (b) you'll have more slack to turn it right-way-up than your buddy would, as you're nearer your first stage.
It boils down to - why do you carry a second DV? A twinset or pony diver carries it for redundancy, so it feeds to his right. A singles diver carries it for his buddy, so it goes to his left.

[tom]

Thanks guys - that makes sense. Thought it was something like that, trying to visualise the mechanics of it.

Tom

[Lou]

Surely that depends on your drill for ascending in an OOA?

You are right that it should come fromt he left if you intend to swim horizontally side by side, but if you ascend face to face you want it from the rightSo that you link right hands and have the left hand free to dump without the octopus hose coming all the way across your face.

Plus, if you assume that he will take the one in your mouth first (a la the &quot;long hose theory&quot but don't dive the ong hose then you either want to be breathing off the occy, or have it breathable for you in the first instance until you get yourself sorted....

Just another way of thinking about it....

Lou