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Regulators and Cylinders: Discuss Nitrox Fills Without a Cert Card in the Dive Kit and Equipment forums: this i find strange 1. you dont need any certs to dive if you buy the kit you can just ...

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Old 09-05-08, 09:50 PM
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this i find strange

1. you dont need any certs to dive if you buy the kit you can just do it
2. you dont need certs to buy gas if you like you could buy as much as you need from air-products without question

so why do dive shops get so upset about it ???

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Couple that with a litigious society and you have a "cover your ass society"

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Couple that with a litigious society and you have a "cover your ass society"

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could you explain how you would be liable as theres no requirement for a diving ticket to dive and no legal requirements for buying gas??

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I'd expect to be asked for my cert card....but I never have been....Anywhere.......I've just been asked to fill the log which I do.....and the space where it says cert.....I just stick TDI Adv Nitrox if i don't happen to have my cert card with me at the time (which has been about 4 times in the past year).
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could you explain how you would be liable as theres no requirement for a diving ticket to dive and no legal requirements for buying gas??

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They are not but it's the threat of legal action that prompts people to enforce rules that arn't rules.
(An opinion not a fact as I can't think why shops would turn away business if not for this reason)
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Never been asked for mine, ever. And used maybe 5 or 6 places for fills, i 'spose the only one with a proper excuse is capenwray 'cos i got my cert there
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ok i can live with that but it is a sad system

cheers paul

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Maybe you would expect a conscientious operator to ask (ignoring the LDS who know you scenario), I would.

I would feel better about handing over my regs to be serviced etc. to someone i thought was conscientious, choosing to check certs, regardless of requirements to do so.

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Every time I've had a nitrox fill I've been asked for my cert.

However, the one time I didn't have it, I was OK because the place I was getting the fill from had already seen my cert in the past so I was trusted.
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Jobsworth bullshit. I can't recall the last time I was asked to justify the purchase of nitrox or trimix.

I could kill myself with any number of products I could buy in my local pharmacy or even Tesco. They don't seem overly concerned.

I could jump in the water with a cylinder of air and kill myself too.
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