Nitrox Fills Without a Cert Card

[weazelz]

Originally Posted by dct

I would feel better about handing over my regs to be serviced etc. to someone i thought was conscientious, choosing to check certs, regardless of requirements to do so.

I'd feel a lot happier getting my regs serviced by someone who just checks stuff he is required to & treats his customers as adults

[Sipadan]

Originally Posted by nickb

Jobsworth bullshit. I can't recall the last time I was asked to justify the purchase of nitrox or trimix.

I could kill myself with any number of products I could buy in my local pharmacy or even Tesco. They don't seem overly concerned.

I could jump in the water with a cylinder of air and kill myself too.

quite right, i agree totally.

to answer the question, i'd expect to be asked though.

[hebails]

Originally Posted by Bantam

Every time I've had a nitrox fill I've been asked for my cert.

However, the one time I didn't have it, I was OK because the place I was getting the fill from had already seen my cert in the past so I was trusted.

There are a couple of tangents here I guess/
1:Most (if not all) people have access to a nitrox computer or nitrox tables. BSAC teach Nitrox as a matter of course but Put Another Dollar In like you to pay for a course to be able to breath this "exotic" gas. You can debate the why's and where-for's till the cows come home but given the proliferation of deco info I do not see how having a cert card will make you any safer to dive Nitrox than someone that sat and read about it and then went out and dived it.
This leads to point 2:
What's the legality of a dive shop refusing to fill 02 clean tins because you can't flash the plastic? I understand they can tell you to bugger off if you cannot show clean tins but what's the thoughts of those that fill tins/own LDS'?
Genuine question btw and I'm cross agency with no axe to grind (apart from my playful dig at PADI (who taught me to dive))
Cheers
Paul

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by hebails

What's the legality of a dive shop refusing to fill 02 clean tins because you can't flash the plastic?

I don't think a shop has to give a reason for refusing service, not wise from a business sense obviously, but their choice ATEOTD.

Safe diving,
Steve

[hebails]

Originally Posted by Steve S

I don't think a shop has to give a reason for refusing service, not wise from a business sense obviously, but their choice ATEOTD.

Safe diving,
Steve

That'll be why I've managed to persuade them to fill my bottles even when I've not had my cert card I guess.
Cheers
Paul

[pieater]

hmm,

I suppose you'll hear that it'd be negligent to do the fills of mix / nitrox without seeing the cert. card.

The question is... would the LDS owe you a duty of care in this regard? Difficult one, as you don't need a ticket to buy lots of things that'll kill you.

[String]

Originally Posted by Leg Of Salmon

Would you expect to get a 32% fill from a LDS without being asked to present your badge?

Yes.

Ive never been asked anywhere for a card to buy a nitrox fill of any sort (even >50% rich mixes).

Its not a legal requirement.

[dct]

Originally Posted by weazelz

I'd feel a lot happier getting my regs serviced by someone who just checks stuff he is required to & treats his customers as adults

Not going to argue with you too much, as I don't really have a particularly strong feeling on this. Just that, if a shop owner has decided he wants to be sure who he is selling Nitrox to, fair enough. Better than someone who just ticks boxes.

There is of course a lot of middle ground between those two extremes!

Dan.

[milldog]

thinking about it i did get a pair of 18's filled with 15/55 trimix for a dive, when i returned they asked for my card i told them i havent got it and to take their gas back...............funny but they let me keep it

Graham

[Big Kahuna]

I normally get nitrox from stoney (OK I know its cheaper the other side of brum but I can't be arsed driving over there for the sake of the cost of a pint).

Every time I go I am always asked for my card, except if James or Mick are on the panel as they know me and I did my PADI nitrox cert with the school.

I had to drive 20 mins home and back a few weeks ago on a Friday afternoon as I had forgot my card. What I was most annoyed about my name was still on the sheet from the Monday and I was diving there the next day!