A difficult one....

[Brass Monkey]

Originally Posted by Mark Davies

Ken Bigley wasn't exactly Terry Waite. He wasn't there for some great altruistic purpose; some wonderful self-sacrifice for the people of Iraq. He was there because someone offered him a shed load of money to do a job that he wouldn't have got paid half as much for at home. He knew the risks and took a chance. It was greed that got him killed.

I have to agree with most of this. I wouldn’t say he understood the risks though, more like underestimated them.
We make our choices in life, the troops in Iraq also made a choice. For Fony Blair to suggest he gave a toss about Ken or the troops on Iraq is an insult to both but they did make their own decisions. Just as Blair made the decision to dance to the tune of the Americans who dance to the tune of the oil companies.

Dave.

[DIVE BUDDHA]

Originally Posted by Brass Monkey

Just as Blair made the decision to dance to the tune of the Americans who dance to the tune of the oil companies.

i think u may have hit the nail on the head there dave although both bush and blair have always said that this war on terror wasnt orrientated around oil ??look at the wealth and the control of supply to the world markets if the americans got its hands on the iraq,ies oil reserves

[Helen F H]

Just think, if tony blair hadnt gone to a service of rememberance. What would have been said then? He had to go to a service.

[Andy the Coastie]

Originally Posted by Porg

Just think, if tony blair hadnt gone to a service of rememberance. What would have been said then? He had to go to a service.

NO.... he should have been in Iraq, with the others holding a service there.

We are talking about ONE greedy bloke having his chopped off, What about the 10's of 000's, that WE pay our respects to this week ... thats the services he should have been going to.

[DIVE BUDDHA]

i can honestly say standing there feeling very humbled at our local cenotaph today, paying my respects to fallen heroes of world war 1and 2 and to the great debt that we owe to them . lest we forget

[The Bouncer]

I think he was bloody hipocritical to go to the service
What sort of arse stands there and says we can't do anything .. we don't negotiate (or words to the effect) then goes to the service.

Yes ken bigley was there for the money, he would have been getting pay cheques the majority of us only dream about. He knew the risks before he went there. he wasn't the first to be captured and beheaded and he won't be the last. As i have stated he knew the risks ... he accepted them, he was unfortunate. I personally don't think there should have been a specific service for Mr Bigley but hell thats my opinion.

I also agree that TB is a puppet of the oil cartels and Mr Bush .... if we can't cope wiuthout the americans, why not throw our lot in, fuck (excuse the language) Europe off and become a sattelite state of america, instead of the Europrats, sorry i mean beuraucrats in brussells


enough rant ... i'll get off the soap box / high horse or whatever

aaarrrrrgghhhh

[The Bouncer]

in addition to my previous post, TB should have been at the cenotaph in London or in the Iraq area, to show his respect as a lot of the country were (inc myself) to the fallen heroes who have served this country in all theatres of battle where ever and when ever

These people needed the kind words not someone in a country for no other reason than to make a lot of money




sorry got riled again