Say it with Pride...I didn't go to University...

[Adrian Kelland]

I am neither proud or ashamed of not going to University.

I have done OK after leaving school on Friday, and starting on Monday. (This was last Friday, they held me back ) Been redundant twice so far, but I don't think a degree will protect you from that. The best job to have (whatever qualification), it seems to me, is one that can't be exported. If it is done at a desk, then it can be done anywhere in the world.

I would say that any pride in yourself can only be relative to your aims. If you went to Uni., got a good useful degree and a job to use it, you can be proud. If you then decide not to do a job related to the degree, it may seem a little wasteful. If you went to Uni. just scraped through, then not so good, but if you get a good job and do well in it then no worries.

I think there is no point on being proud of an action, if that action does not result in value (not necessarily monetary) for yourself or others.

ie I have sailed across the Atlantic. So what. It was good fun, and a great experience, but nothing to be proud of. If I had been solo, then maybe. You get my point?

Adrian

[Ant P]

Originally Posted by Adrian Kelland

If you then decide not to do a job related to the degree, it may seem a little wasteful.

This whole thread is a little bizarre. Surely going to University is a personal choice - not a case of whether you 'need to' or not, and this personal choice should be extended to as many people as possible.

For the record I do a job that is nothing to do with my degree - I studied history and now run my own editorial company. I don't see a problem with that. Lets not get too hung up on the vocational nature of some degrees - that is only part of the story. University study is very different from school study and can help you think independently.

Cheers, Ant

[Adrian Kelland]

Originally Posted by Ant P

This whole thread is a little bizarre. Surely going to University is a personal choice - not a case of whether you 'need to' or not, and this personal choice should be extended to as many people as possible.

For the record I do a job that is nothing to do with my degree - I studied history and now run my own editorial company. I don't see a problem with that. Lets not get too hung up on the vocational nature of some degrees - that is only part of the story. University study is very different from school study and can help you think independently.

Cheers, Ant

I did say 'may seem', not 'is'. This is all about value judgement, not fact.

[beanie]

Originally Posted by Ant P

This whole thread is a little bizarre. Surely going to University is a personal choice - not a case of whether you 'need to' or not, and this personal choice should be extended to as many people as possible.

For the record I do a job that is nothing to do with my degree - I studied history and now run my own editorial company. I don't see a problem with that. Lets not get too hung up on the vocational nature of some degrees - that is only part of the story. University study is very different from school study and can help you think independently.

Cheers, Ant

thing is alot of students go because they think they should or are told to go and waste (upto) three years bumming around getting pissed.

[ray]

Never went to UNI but 3 of my mates in my class did and I was always better at subjects than them, but I wanted to be a joiner, and now I am.

They should have done me a favour and kicked me in the bollacks, Jesus was a joiner but he had the sense to get out of it!

Still I am richer than they are, and they are fat and bald as buggery, With me being a builder im as fit as a butcher's dog.

[Adrian Kelland]

Originally Posted by ray

They should have done me a favour and kicked me in the bollacks, Jesus was a joiner but he had the sense to get out of it!

And look what happened to him!


patter patter, grabs coat, SLAM.

[nigelH]

Originally Posted by Noel Johnson

I'm now doing a engineering degree with the OU and I'm about to be made redundant again... ARSE!

The down side of all these qualifications is that the only time I was made redundant it was because the accountants did their sums wrong and the firm went bust. I didn't have just me and my family to worry about. I had to start by speaking to each of my staff as they arrived for work and sending them home again with the news that they didn't have a job and I really didn't know if they would get paid or when.

That was one of those days when driving a bus looked oh so simple and attractive.

nigelH

[ahar]

Originally Posted by beanie

thing is alot of students go because they think they should or are told to go and waste (upto) three years bumming around getting pissed.

There's nothing wasteful about spending three years getting pissed....

How useful universtiy is will depend on what you want to do. Medicine (doctor, nurse etc) needs it, but IT generally doesn't; dentistry does but plumbing doesn't. I've worked with lots of people (in IT) who have degrees and lots who don't - I've found that if someone is rubbish at their job it generally doesn't matter whether they have a degree or not.

I did an IT and Business degree and then went into IT, but most of the people I have worked with who have degrees don't have them in related subjects - the wierdest one was Archeology

[Ian@1904]

Originally Posted by Lou

Well done on the first, however to judge the content of all degree courses based on the one you did is not fair.

I did Mech Eng and we felt very hard done by as we had a full week of lectures compared with some of the business school courses that squeezed in about 10 or 11 hours. Their reasoning was that they spent more time in the library doing "self-study"......I can't comment on the truth of that, but we certainly filled 4 years of lectures and got a professionally accredited degree at the end of it. (Engineering degrees have to conform to certain standards to be accepted by the various institutes who stand for engineering as a profession)

Lou

I know how you feel I did production Engineering and Business studies. My room mate in the first year did Business studies- He did Economics, Accounting, Communications, Behavoural studies. We had the same text books, lecturers and exams. I also had Engineering Science, Maths, Techie drawing, lab work. metallurgy. At once stage we had to give up lunches to git in eight hours of lectures and tutorials a day. Kids have it easy today, and I from Yorkshire, even studied in sheffield

Mate got fed up with the work and went to work for a brewery, great idea.

I ended up becoming a bean counter, the money can be very good, but the hours can be long, stressful, thankless, and let us face it dull.

Going to Uni. Its a personal choice, it was a great place to learn about life (beer, relationships, and personal finance)

[Clare Gledhill]

Originally Posted by Noel Johnson

I'm about to be made redundant again... ARSE!

Sorry to hear that - my hubby lost his job too late last year - it's not fun. He has got another one now though which he prefers to the last so lets hope your silver lining is a better job and shed loads more money!