Creationism Vs Evolution - where do we come from?

[Hairy Tim]

I was watching an Americal news channel at the weekend who were showing a lecture by Newt Gingrich, an american politician. He was arguing he's been created by God and had God-given rights.

Didn't really agree with the fellow but each to his own.

Are we special or are we mere hairless apes (Hairy arsed apes also included)?

[Adrian Kelland]

I'm for evolution, there are just too many things wrong for us to be the result of devine design. Take the human eye (just one of 40 or so 'designs') the wires are on the inside, resulting in the blindspot where they pass back through to the brain. Not all eyes work this way.

Adrian

[Mr T.]

Tim,

poll added. Let me know if you want it re-wording.

[Garf]

I'm a big fan of Richard Dawkins. The Selfish Gene is superb reading, and makes a whole lotta sense.

I married a catholic girl (), and every sunday I have an appointment with the gym at the same time she has an appointment to see Mr God. She doesn't hassle me about going diving, and I don't hassle her about membership of one of the world's largest cults. We avoid conversation becuase she has been brainwashed into getting all angry whenever I bring up the merest hint of a possibility that it's all a load of raving bolox, and that the first page is missing from the bible, the one that says "Dedicated to Mum. all characters within are ficticious, and any resemblance etc etc". If I suggest that perhaps the fact that when marrying a catholic you have to agree to bring up your children as catholic means that it's not only bolox, but self-sustaining bolox...oooh then her toys have a real "out of pram" experience.

Personally, I think all religion is crowd control, but that's another story. WE're not special, I don't even think we are the dominant species on the planet, we are just so arrogant we believe we are. The sooner a big-ass rock hurtles in and wipes the slates clean, the sooner the insects can get on with it without us making an arse of the planet.

[Adrian Kelland]

Originally Posted by Garf

I'm a big fan of Richard Dawkins. The Selfish Gene is superb reading, and makes a whole lotta sense.

I married a catholic girl (), and every sunday I have an appointment with the gym at the same time she has an appointment to see Mr God. She doesn't hassle me about going diving, and I don't hassle her about membership of one of the world's largest cults.

Personally, I think all religion is crowd control, but that's another story.

You mean the wars? Behind the scenes birth control...

[NeilP]

Evolution....................


.............although some people think they are from the opposite (Creationism) and there are definately some that are less 'Evolved' than others.......

[chrisch]

The evidence for evolution is overwhelming. Gingrich is a cynical vote-grabber that knows the yanks are dumb-as-shit. Some schools now will not teach evolution in case the kiddies figure out creationism is mumbo-jumbo that 99% of the world's christians discount (US excluded).

Chris

[Gavin Smith]

Originally Posted by Garf

I'm a big fan of Richard Dawkins. The Selfish Gene is superb reading, and makes a whole lotta sense.

good book -I'd gren you but it won't let me

[Janos]

Bren,

I think you need to change the poll options:

(Divine) Inspiration
or Evolution

Laters,
Janos

[Mr T.]

Originally Posted by Epic

Evolution....................


.............although some people think they are from the opposite (Creationism) and there are definately some that are less 'Evolved' than others.......

Aye, agreed mate,

there will always be those with delusions of their own capability, woolly thinkers and wannabes-never-gonnabes - Newt Gingrich being just one prime example