Why the ###K ?????

[Allan Carr]

Another thing that I find particulalrly annoying on roundabouts is people who think that only one lane of traffic can go around no matter how wide the road. There is one near me where I frequently turn right but most traffic goes straight on. Rarely can I make this right turn without somebody cutting across my nose from the left lane taking a straight line across the roundabout. Lane discipline ...pah!

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by Gledders

Sorry - I'm missing something here...

Stop? Why would we want to do that....

Oh - is that what that middle pedal is for...

Nope - still not with you

Yup after following Clare to Vobster on Saturday I can wholeheartedly say that braking is not something that happens often, the favourite pedal being the righthand one as Clare can certainly get the Landy moving at a fair old speed.

[Bantam]

Originally Posted by SoggyFox

Theres a couple of others, to add to the annoyance at roundabouts. The people who are on the inside of an articulated lorry, when the lorry pulls onto the roundabout and the person in the car sits there stationary, like what do they thinks going to drive through the lorry and hit them?

Hahaha! I have seen this so many times on the York ring road. I now use my horn to wake them up from their slumber at the wheel.

Still my #1 pet hate is people who go all the way round roundabouts to turn left whilst there is a moderate sized queue in the left hand lane waiting patiently to do the same thing.

Oh - and people who pull out on you on motorways and then don't pull back in when they've passed the car they were overtaking and there's no-one in the lane they left.

[SoggyFox]

If we're onto motorways.

driving back from a meeting in Oxford on the way to Wycombe along the M40. 3 cars in a row driving in the middle lane, nothing in front of them, couldn't be arsed to pull all the way across the 3 lanes and then back in so i kept my speed constant and sailed up the inside of them all, to be given a wonderful sound and light show. If i can drive up the inside of you why aren't you in that FOOKIN LANE!!!!

[Bantam]

Originally Posted by SoggyFox

If we're onto motorways.

driving back from a meeting in Oxford on the way to Wycombe along the M40. 3 cars in a row driving in the middle lane, nothing in front of them, couldn't be arsed to pull all the way across the 3 lanes and then back in so i kept my speed constant and sailed up the inside of them all, to be given a wonderful sound and light show. If i can drive up the inside of you why aren't you in that FOOKIN LANE!!!!

Yeah - I can't understand that either. It's almost as though some people think that middle class = middle lane. Left lane is lower class and right lane is upper class.

That's the only way I can work it out. Maybe we should change the law like in the USA so you can undertake on the inside. Maybe lane discipline would increase? Or do like they do in France and only have 2 lane motorways and force lane discipline.

[calski]

A great idea in theory, but what happens with a two lane motorway when lorry drivers invariably need to go the 1mph fast that the one in front and overtake... up a hill?

Ah... the M4 in Wales...

calski

[Bantam]

Originally Posted by calski

A great idea in theory, but what happens with a two lane motorway when lorry drivers invariably need to go the 1mph fast that the one in front and overtake... up a hill?

Ah... the M4 in Wales...

calski

You do two things;

1: Move a majority of freight back onto Rail. Would save massive amounts of congestion
2: Make the right hand lane cars only so the lorries can't overtake.

[Scuby]

Originally Posted by zepp

Can't they see that travelling at a constant slow speed is far easier and less stressful than the 'vvrrrrmmm' accelerate- brake method.

Depends on the circumstances to be honest. I'm usually happy to let a nice space build up infront so I don't have to brake - saves effort changing gear and pressing the clutch all the time if I can just idle along in 1st...

... BUT, some people take that a bit too far. I know people who will stay so far behind that all the cars in front have moved into our lane, in front of us, so that effectively we're acting as a road block in the lane. In that situation i'd be keeping fairly close to the one in front if I ever wanted to get anywhere.

David

[Scuby]

The ones stopping at the roundabouts shouldn't be driving... plain and simple! The reason - they don't have the necessary observation skills to drive safely. They can only look ahead while they're driving, and to look sideways they need to stop first. Possibly a little bit of a generalisation, but there are SOOOO many people who really have no idea about whats going on around them... and of course they're rarely the ones involved in accidents, but rather the more observant vehicle who has to swerve out of their way or whatever while they're blissfully unaware of any problem whatsoever.

David (who thinks everyone - including myself - should be re-tested every 5 or 10 years... especially the elderly!)

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by Bantam

You do two things;

1: Move a majority of freight back onto Rail. Would save massive amounts of congestion
2: Make the right hand lane cars only so the lorries can't overtake.

1 does your local supermarket(insert appropriate destination that requires large goods vehicle supply) have a rail terminal next to it?
2 damn right we should