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Speakers' Corner: Discuss Equal Rights for the ChildFREE! in the Non-Diving Related Forums forums: Just what is so special about children? It's a known disease, we all know the cause, the symptoms only ...

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Old 10-01-06, 08:45 AM
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Just what is so special about children? It's a known disease, we all know the cause, the symptoms only last for about 18 years - so put up with it! What is it with these people so they think they are somehow "special" and deserve special treatment and privileges as a result of their horizontal folk dancing? So, you've got kids - fine by me, just don't inflict them on everybody else and expect everyone else to pay for them and put up with the consequences for you.

It starts the moment they appear, children don't inherit their parents brains, they steal them. The appearance of a groin fruit is known to reduce previously sensible adults to gibbering imbeciles with only one topic of conversation. I remember sitting in the office one day whilst the fathers of two newborn's subjected the entire office to a two hour in-depth discussion about baby turds! Look, WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED.

As if the roads aren't bad enough they clog them up dropping the little brats off at school and picking them up again. Rules don't apply of course because they are "special". A brat in the back allows you to stop anywhere, park on the pavement, ignore double yellow lines. What a wonderful invention children are, they allow you to do whatever you like and to hell with everybody else. They are allowed to scream, shout and run around in restaurants, you get your own special parking places at supermarkets reserved for you and your MP3 playing disinterested teenage brat. In the workplace they grant you some very special privileges, paid for by everybody else of course!

Now the workplace is a particularly good example. Months and months of subsidised holiday, the ability to come and go as you please, unlimited sickies because little brat has a sore throat - and everybody else is supposed to suffer to cover for you. Two particular incidents come to mind : The first was one of those rare occasions when I got at the holiday rota first (both bratted people were out tending their kids!) so I booked a couple of nice long breaks over bank holidays. Oh no, no, no - that wasn't "fair", because I didn't have children I was publicly berated for "stealing" the prime holiday periods, the people with children "needed" those because the brats were on school holiday! Then there was the up country urgent job, 8 hours on the road, a days work needed - those with children couldn't possible do that, they had to collect their brats, take them to football etc. etc. To my complete and utter amazement (NOT) a few weeks later, when a job needed doing in Vienna on a Thurs/Fri, child minders and other people to do brat runs for them were no problem at all and of course they were available to do it

My rant is very simple : So you've got kids, OK, good for you, your choice, you did it. But don't expect everybody else and the world to revolve around you because of it. We're sick of your "but it's for the children" excuses, you expecting everybody else to make sacrifices for your chosen lifestyle. They're kids, they'll grow out of it, it happens all of the time. But special you are not, and there is an ever growing army of people who have now had enough of your selfish child centric ways and of you dumping your problems on us.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4600455.stm
http://www.childfreebychoice.com/
http://www.worldchildfree.org/

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Old 10-01-06, 08:48 AM
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At least I'm not the only one out there who feels like this. It really does naff me off when people can have days and days off because their kids are ill and it is classed as "special leave" basically extra bloody holiday. And all these special "working at home" privledges so that they can look after the kids.

I'm not saying I dislike kids, I have judt chosen not to have them (there is a "yet" in here too, I may yet change my mind!!) but what ever happened to equality.

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Absolutely agree!
Especially the bit about going of sick 'cos the little one has a sniffle... and holiday rota's... and why cannot kids walk 1/2 mile to school or if further get the BUS!
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and holiday rota's...
love working over the xmas period, none of the managers are in, the roads are quiet and i can catch up on my sleep without wasting holiday.
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As a parent of two kid I agree. I dont expect other to look after my off spring. As far as the rant about pensions who's paying for me? I look at my tax, NI and pension deductions every month and I know who's paying for it I AM. Have a green.
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C'mon guys. No-one is having a dig at the honest, fantastic, responsible parents, it is just a rant at those who use is as an excuse to take the p*** and the systems that let them do it!
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As a parent of two kid I agree. I dont expect other to look after my off spring. As far as the rant about pensions who's paying for me? I look at my tax, NI and pension deductions every month and I know who's paying for it I AM. Have a green.
No, you are paying for the current pensioners - it's the kids who will be paying for you.

Besides which, those of you who don't have kids are seriously endangering the longevity of you your diving career. What is going to happen when you get to my age and have back problems and don't have big strong sons to move your gear around for you?
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Fine, I'll play the reverse of this argument card and let all the little darlings pay for my dotage then
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In fairness though, if we didn't have kids, who'd program the video for us?

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