Breach of Human Rights?!?!

[Kate]

BBC NEWS | UK | 'Payments' for prison cold turkey

Obviously full details of each individual have not and can not be disclosed, but by the information that has been given, what now constitutes as not breaching human rights. Will people now be raising cases because they feel it is a breach to their human rights because they are in an 8 by 10 cell for killing, raping, setting fire to, defrauding etc?

What about the human rights to all of the people’s lives that those criminals have been affected, destroyed or taken away?

What are your views on this matter? Is this going to open up a nasty can of worms?

[turbanator]

Especially when it's compounded by the fact that they are proabably in prison for offences committed to fund their drug habit.

If prison is about education as well as punishment, then I would have thought that it'd be a good idea to 'educate' them not to use drugs.

If going Cold Turkey makes the experience a bit more unpleasant, well perhaps they'd be less likely to go through it again.

Simplistic, I know, but I think that there are plenty of cases where prisons are too soft. Another story on the news today was about some guy on day-release who was supposed to be working as a van driver, who was infact, running a pub!!
He was seen to have 5 pints and then drove himself back to prison for his curfew.

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[wacky28]

I'm sorry if it isn't PC, but I am afraid I agree with you on this.

If individuals feel that they need to commit crimes against others such as these then they give up their rights to be treated in a civilised manner.

I am sure that if these criminals were asked they would agree that the treatment is deserving of the crimes they have commited. It's usually some middle class numpty, who is so far removed from reality, who champions this kind of fight.

If you have been following the "gangs" docu with the big fella from Eastenders in, the criminals in the south african jail have taken over the responsibilites fro dishing out justice. Seeing how these people traet each other would be a bloody good advert to not commit crimes.

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[Stesh]

This just seems to me yet another story stirred up and spun around by the media, so some prisoners were receiving methadone treatment before they entered prison and then the prison refused to give them their medicine?
Of course the prisoners have a case, the laws there to protect scumbag smackheads as well the ordinary man in the street.

[rustuk]

Originally Posted by Kate

BBC NEWS | UK | 'Payments' for prison cold turkey

What about the human rights to all of the people’s lives that those criminals have been affected, destroyed or taken away?

Don't be daft Kate, the normal, law-abiding tax payers (such as ourselves) don't actually have any rights...

Personally, I think that once you're convicted of something and banged up, all bets are off. No rights, no nothing - people seem to forget that first and foremost (or at least as far as I'm concerned) Prison is about PUNISHMENT.
Rehab, (in the odd instance where it actually works) is great, but surely that's secondary?

[Kate]

Originally Posted by rustuk

Don't be daft Kate, the normal, law-abiding tax payers (such as ourselves) don't actually have any rights...

Personally, I think that once you're convicted of something and banged up, all bets are off. No rights, no nothing - people seem to forget that first and foremost (or at least as far as I'm concerned) Prison is about PUNISHMENT.
Rehab, (in the odd instance where it actually works) is great, but surely that's secondary?

Exactly what my Dad said. I have family who work in the Prison Service and each of them said the prisoners have more rights that you and I. Where is the sense in that?

People like you and I who are law-abiding and who pay into the system have less rights than those who offend or don’t pay into the system (I could say more, but have to stop myself)

[turbanator]

Originally Posted by Kate

People like you and I who are law-abiding and who pay into the system have less rights than those who offend or don’t pay into the system (I could say more, but have to stop myself)

I will. I'm soon to become dole-scum. Will I get back the £900/month (not including NI) that I've been paying if I'm out of work? Nope.

I reckon that I'm in for the standard £50/week job seeker's allowance.
It's a pity that I don't have, 'Playing the system' and 'spnging off the sate' on my CV, as if I had experience of those, then you caould all sleep safer in your beds knowing that I'd not become the crap criminal that I'd probably make.

So for me, it's straight into another job so that I can get back to my true vocation in life which is suporting spongers, something I've done for the past 25 years.

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[JohnK]

This is another fine example of our society in Great Britain today............

You can go out, take part in a major crime, get banged up, 3 meals a day, colour TV in the cell, ............and now free drugs as its apparently a breach of their human rights if you are a druggie!! Well, F**k me pink, what will it be next ?

Now tell me, whats in it for the normal law abiding folk in this country that reinforces socially acceptable behaviour of the majority ??

F**k all, thats what. I despair, I really do. Any crime and no real punishment.

[sean0801]

when i heard this story on the way into work this morning, i genuinely checked to see if it was april 1st because you really couldn't make this shit up

wtf am i doing wrong?

[JohnK]

Sean - it seems that every idiot in society has rights, even the fuckers that kill wives and rape kids. Im disgusted in the way things are going. Surely there must be some reality somewhere, somewhere where the normal person can be heard.