Rant - How Much !!!!!!!!

[teddybeardiver]

Originally Posted by NotDeadYet

Just a few points:

It breaks PADI's procedures. So what? I don't teach, I don't divemaster PADI trips and I am not a current PADI member. Nowadays I only ever use my cert so that pain in the arse instructors and divemasters leave me alone when I'm on holiday.

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I will let DAN answer your questions about falsifying medical forms.

DAN Divers Alert Network : Medical Questionnaire / Statement

Originally Posted by NotDeadYet

I have medicals every three months through work and am probably a lot fitter than most people. I have no contraindications to diving. I'm not paying 40quid for someone who doesn't know anything about me to sign a form (I've had one prescription from my doctor in 15yrs).

If you have no contraindications why do you need to get a form signed?

Originally Posted by NotDeadYet

As for not caring about my buddy, if it was someone stupid enough to make a sweeping generalisation about something they don't know about then you're probably right.

If a person lies on their the form they could be putting their buddies life at risk if they have to rescue them because the condition they lied about causes them to have problems underwater.

[darthmoll]

Originally Posted by dry suit diver

Because in wrote in the further information box that no symptoms for 20 years, as requested by the form. then he said oh no sorry you need a medical. I think I know more about my medical history than he does especially when the RAF had indicated in the medical I had to take for entry to them that more than 5 years without an attack means unlikely to be what original GP said.
probly should have put that in the OP

I also had to sign the 'disclaimer' waiving liability in the event of ........., he wasn't impressed that i told him I legally cannot sign any rights away in the UK.

You of course are correct about the waiver, I would normally tell my students that as I show them the form, and discus it with them, but we must still get all students to sign the form to be within standards.

The medical statement is simple to understand, from the PADI medical form,

"Please answer the following questions on your past or present medical history with a YES or NO. If you are not sure, answer YES. If any of these items apply to you, we must request that you consult with a physician prior to participating in scuba diving. Your instructor will supply you with an RSTC Medical Statement and Guidelines for Recreational Scuba Diver’s Physical Examination to take to your physician."

Now it may be your instructor was lacking in social skills and that's why your nose was put out of joint, some of these young instructors are, well young, but as you wrote yes on the medical form, you must go and get a doctors medical, by standards. For the record, it would also be incorrect to start again, and pretend that he did not hear you say that you had, in the past have asthma.

We live in a KYA world, instructors can be sued, and they must operate in a professional manner to ensure that they afford themselves maximum benefit of the cover offered by the agency, what ever that may be…

Your instructor may very well have been a smart arse, but at least he made sure his paperwork was correct, as he should have.