Why do people avoid contact when owing money?

[Angleseyskipper]

Originally Posted by yazzyfooty

Terry
It was the diving for gold weekends you had kindly arranged and let us play about with those big hoses and we could pretend we were gold miners or in my case a bone collector!

yep thats the one ,you remember we had a pair of no show ,non paying "YDers" called zok & Co .
seem to recall the parents wedding anniversary card was played as the backout plan ,thought i'd heard em all!
keep yapping little dog you know who you are.

elfyn

[Acero]

Originally Posted by Zok

Sorry guys looks like i'm out of this one, apperently 50 years ago on the 12th my mum and dad got married

Factual

Originally Posted by angleseydiver

Assuming that's you and your buddy looking for replacement, Zok...

THREE SPACES NOW AVAILABLE!

Much more fun than the DiveShow!

And an amiable response.

[Letz]

Being as many advocate a "name and shame" policy and there is now another thread may I just say that ...

... if I enter transactions with people on YD be it buying, selling, meeting for a dive ... I try to ensure an exchange of telephone numbers.
PMs and emails are a non-real time form of communication with no gaurentee of receipt, storage or understanding and I really don't think we can rely on them as complete communication.

I know this is a technological age etc but we are actually human beings and if we can't talk to each other and end up hiding behind, easily misinterpreted text, there is little hope

Just my 2p worth, and advice

[scuba g]

If someone is going to sell or book a trip/course, then they should give their full name and address and reliable contact details. As its not fair on the person booking it who may end up brunting the cost, if I have to cancel or backout for some reason, I will get someone to take my place or pay in full, and not leave others in the sh*te.

[Andy the Coastie]

Originally Posted by Sixsquid

... if I enter transactions with people on YD be it buying, selling, meeting for a dive ... I try to ensure an exchange of telephone numbers.
PMs and emails are a non-real time form of communication with no gaurentee of receipt, storage or understanding and I really don't think we can rely on them as complete communication.



Just my 2p worth, and advice

But in Gary's defence,

The other day when he was doing his RYA course, we were both PM'ing each other and no real time delay bewteen PM's ...........

[PeeBee]

My 2p... fwiw.

Life is too short to distrust everyone and everything, I tend to assume the best of people and obviously I occasionally get caught out, but to my mind it's easier that way than assuming everyone is out to rip me off.

I have bought and/or borrowed stuff from fellow YDers and arranged trips all with practically no problems, on one occasion I was slow returning a piece of kit that I'd borrowed (sorry Scubee), on another I lent a piece of kit which I've never seen back, oh and I still owe Shiney D a few quid, just haven't seen him to pay him yet . But the vast majority of people I have dealt with make trusting people easy.
For me the trick is to not risk more than I can afford to lose, that way if it goes wrong I won't lose sleep over it.

Oh and this isn't an invitation to scammers... I'm not a complete muppet all the time.

[edward]

Oh cobblers. PeeBee - PM about to be sent.

[Angleseyskipper]

Originally Posted by Zok

Factual


And an amiable response.

And your point is what exactly?

simple fact ,you booked 2 spaces for 2 days on one of my trips made no attempt to fill those spaces when you backed out , or pay the outstanding £140 under the terms laid out on YD.


you then went to ground for 4 months managed to remove yer name from the members list and ignored all pms .
quality member

elfyn
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elfyn.

[nickb]

Originally Posted by Angleseyskipper

you booked 2 spaces for 2 days on one of my trips made no attempt to fill those spaces when you backed out , or pay the outstanding £140 under the terms laid out on YD.

Surely if you're running a business, you have your own terms and conditions, contracts etc. Why would YD standard practice for trip organisers have anything to do with it?

Unless you're trying to run your business on the cheap that is.

Yap Yap!

[alby scubakitmarket]

its always the same in every walk of life there is always the minority toe rags that f..k it up for the rest of us

alby