Daylight robbery diesel!

[DIVE BUDDHA]

its so frustrating seeing the country being squeezed dry

its getting harder and harder year on year to live in rip off britain !!!

the petrol prices just seem to more and more spiraling out of control!

and this government has totaly run out of ideas!

[aquayle]

Its just gone up to 80cents

[HelenP]

Originally Posted by Helen F H

Holy cow. I knew it was going to be bad when we arrived at the garage to fill up with fuel and they didnt have their prices on the board outside....i suspect it was because they had run out of numbers.

Guess how much per litre for diesel? £1.34 For that price i want Orlando Bloom nekkid working behind the counter! Now i know Grangemouth is shut for strike action, but £1.34 for a litre of diesel just isnt funny when all the fuel for Orkney comes from Liverpool by boat. Dont get me started on red diesel either, cos that had more than doubled too

And breathe

OMG I was just shocked that i had to pay £1.20 a litre. Puts it into perspective!

[Horndog]

Originally Posted by Mark Chase

If the govt were serious about green issues all garages would sell bio petrol and bio deasel.

I agree the prices of petrol etc are getting excessive, but one thing to consider on the bio-fuels issue, they are not as green as first thought.

Much of the crops grown for the fuel are grown in deforested areas in poorer countries of the world, large areas of the primeforests of Borneo-Malysia and large parts of South America are being heavilly cut down to ease the coincience of the western world. as well as habitat removal for wildlife, these forests absorb a lot of CO2 and the disturbance of the soils releases more traped CO2 and methane.

And there is the food price issue as mentioned by BJ. If farmers are growing bio-fuel there not growing food.

[Helen F H]

Originally Posted by BJ

Helen, I thought you used the red stuff...oh, hush my mouth!

LOL, use red in the car? You know the police have sod all else to do up here cept chase people for motoring offences?

Red for the boat is 42p per litre and rising

[Dave Crampton]

Originally Posted by Mark Chase

I drive a Shogan Diesel at the moment if they did a LPG version id get it and if they did Bio fuel at the petrol station Id use it. But I need a large 7 seater and preferably 4WD so theres no point ofering me a Toyota Pryas.

Mark

Mark what about after market Gas conversion? Or vegetable oil in your diesel?

[chrisch]

All fuel prices will keep going up and up. That's the reality of what is happening. The pound is falling due to the realisation (at last) by the finance sector that the UK balance of payment deficit and indebtedness is like the US and so the UK economy must follow suit.

Bio fuel is not the answer and it will not drive down prices. Only falling demand has that ability and that is unlikely unless we get a full on recession with job losses and stuff.

Current highest estimates are £1.50 by October.

So folks buy a more fuel efficient car now. Good for the environment good for the pocket

Chris

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by Horndog

I agree the prices of petrol etc are getting excessive, but one thing to consider on the bio-fuels issue, they are not as green as first thought.

Much of the crops grown for the fuel are grown in deforested areas in poorer countries of the world, large areas of the primeforests of Borneo-Malysia and large parts of South America are being heavilly cut down to ease the coincience of the western world. as well as habitat removal for wildlife, these forests absorb a lot of CO2 and the disturbance of the soils releases more traped CO2 and methane.

And there is the food price issue as mentioned by BJ. If farmers are growing bio-fuel there not growing food.

100% Bo Diesel has lower emisions than LPG

Diesel = 2.63 KG CO2/Litre

Petrol = 2.30 KG CO2/Litre

LPG = 1.49 KG CO2/Litre

Natural gas = 2.65 KG CO2/KG

100% Biodiesel (B100) = 1.07 KG CO2/Litre


Bio diesel can be made from recycled vegtable oil that is presently being dumped.

You can make up to 2500ltrs of bio diesel per year tax free for about 65p a ltr using virgin oil so a saving 53p/ltr and £1325 in the process. If you use S?H oil you need to wash and filter it but the costper ltr goes down to about 30p. So a saving of £2200 a year.

The kit to make bio diesel is about £900

ATB

Mark

[Mark Chase]

Originally Posted by Dave Crampton

Mark what about after market Gas conversion? Or vegetable oil in your diesel?

Veg oil is bio diesel and I cant convert my car to LPG because its new and the conversion would invalidate the warrente.

ATB

Mark

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by Scubee

holy shit.
it is going to be about 10 days before Grangmouth is operating fully again. Wonder how high the capitalist bastewards will hike the price before then!

as much as they like .

Unite doesn't actually run the country as much as it thinks it does, and yes its all about pensions again whats the company offering whats Unite telling its members to reject.

Tragicus would have been a far better name.


DSD a not so proud Unite member today.