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Old 26-04-08, 10:54 PM
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Exactly how much of our petrol costs are tax to the greedy Government? They keep warning us about the economy but if they reduced the amount of tax they stick on petrol all the other costs wouldn't keep rising as well.
The figures are here Price of Petrol in the UK - PetrolPrices.com
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Old 27-04-08, 03:35 AM
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Unfortunately it’s us the end user that lets the government and garage owner get away with high full cost
The full protest in 2000 was the worst thing that could have happened. Because it showed all governments how much people would pay for fuel , i saw car’s bikes van queuing up at any petrol station that had fuel and i mean at 2/3/4 o’clock in the morning just to be able to buy 10 litres, i also saw prices at £ 2.50 per leter and people still willing to pay this.
I have just come home from work, put in my normal amount of fuel in for a night‘s work
But had to queue behind people panic buying, i have just seen 2 cars at the pump’s with there owners bouncing there cars up and down to get 0.5 of a litre in their tanks.
The only way that all of us could force down the price of fuel, is do not buy it
If any of you’s that live in London in the 90ts and can remember when Livingstone made it a max of 10p on busses
Fuel prices came down over night, it seems a long time now but, fuel (for me petrol) came down f from over 50p a litre to under 35p a litre, as people were using the busses and not there car’s
Until all of us say F””k you and i don’t gave a toss about my bills and repaying the bank or building society what i owe them on my house or flat., I will not take any family holidays
I will not go diving i am also not going out for a meal with family or friends. I will not go to the pub or club for a beer or two, i could go on and on, but this is probably getting a bit boring for all that are reading it.
All what i have said here is not going to happen, we live in a cappitil list society
So fuel will go up and up cost of living will go up.
Where i am coming from is, my father was a docker in the London docks , i can remember me being the eldest, that i had to put a meal in front of my younger brother and sister ( i was only 8 at the time) because my mother and father were outside the dock gates fighting for their rights to work all we had in the flat was Quaker oats and sterilized milk , for any who can remember this stuff , i will say no more, for those that don’t you are lucky. It did not matter to us that we did not have a pot to piss in or that my mother or father could not pay the rent, we all lived in council housing
And at the time the council would not chuck you out for none payment of rent. In fact they would help you, if you had hit hard times.
But times have change now. we all want more out of life for us and for our kid’s (you’s that don’t have kids now. Will want the same when you have them)
So the point is, we all will complain like F **k, but we all will all still pay whatever price they charge us for fuel food and beer wine and a wee glass or two.
I was once told by a very wise man that fuel is the cheapest thing that you put in a vehicle
And i still think that he was right
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Daylight Robbery

Talking about daylight robbery... this guy has done it 20 times and is still at large.... drives a Transit like me... so thats £85 a fill... and its almost worth trying.

Police appeal over petrol theft - MK News
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"We are investigation all 20 offences..."

Frankly, if she could spell, she might stand a better chance of catching the guy.

If you want a change to a system, you fight for change. In this case it will take hundreds of thousands of people to fight together to make that change.

Frankly right now all it will take is someone to make a decision when we are going to make a stand and I think thousands will join in. It won't be lorry drivers and farmers this time, it will be the general public. And woe betide a government that tries to stop the public from making a stand.

Personally fuel cost is one of a number of costs I have to think about, but right now it's not at the top of the list. The money's got to come from somewhere, so I suppose if it doesn't cost me in fuel it will cost me as cash off my wages, national insurance payments, VAT, it will come from somewhere. Because the government isn't going to cut costs more than they have already, they're not capable of doing it without everything going to ratshit.

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Unfortunately we only have one garage in Stromness and it is now £1.40 per litre, Lucky you got your fuel early Helen
that is a disgrace that although i dought that many government ministers will

be loseing many nites sleep knowing that they are pushing an ever increasing

shakey econemy further into resescion
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As others have pointed to, the government make more out of a litre of petrol than anybody. If the petrol companies decide to put up price of petrol by 1p, they have to add several more pennies on for the government.

It would be perfectly possible for the government to negate most of the price increase, without having any affect on their income. As it is, the treasury must be laughing, with all the extra duty coming in. They can then blame the oil companies for the rises.

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As others have pointed to, the government make more out of a litre of petrol than anybody. If the petrol companies decide to put up price of petrol by 1p, they have to add several more pennies on for the government.

It would be perfectly possible for the government to negate most of the price increase, without having any affect on their income. As it is, the treasury must be laughing, with all the extra duty coming in. They can then blame the oil companies for the rises.

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Yup. Duty and VAT account for 66p of the cost of a litre according to Teddybeardiver's link. Shocking isn't it. Can't wait for the next election to see what their campaign promises are...
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H the tories put up fuel prices and introduced the fuel price escalator that GB scrapped. No one is going to give you a cheap ride on fuel because they will then need to put up tax elsewhere. That's the end of it. You have to pay for all the sponging old people moaning about the price of cat food in Sainsburys on a Saturday morning (we go because its busy and we like all the people - you can have a nice chat with the till operator...)

So tax will be charged somewhere. Fuel is an easy target.

Anyway just spotted a Texaco on the way home tonight...

£1.25

One fifty is going to be a fact this year IMO. Still, at least we can laugh at all the SUV twats

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[quote=chrisch;909091]You have to pay for all the sponging old people moaning about the price of cat food...

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