Daylight robbery diesel!

[Ahmed Adly]

Originally Posted by CotoChris

What I don't understand about the fuel prices is that it is based on the price per barrel in US $. Although the price of the barrel went up the value of US$ dropped. If comparing prices per barrel to local currency the prices should have dropped and not increase. Can anyone explain this? or the barrels aren't paid in US$ afterall.

yes let me explain. All of them have no clue what is going on.

[String]

The paranoid lunatics are out in force today even down here.

No fuel to be had anywhere at any cost NOT because of a reduction in supply but purely due to demand being up by a factor of 10.

Panic buying creating an artificial shortage.

Thus proving the generally low IQ of the general public as a whole.

[jptaylor9]

Originally Posted by String

Panic buying creating an artificial shortage.

Thus proving the generally low IQ of the general public as a whole.

Not helped by headlines in Daily Mirror (i think) saying "Were running out of Petrol".

Nice to see the press acting responsibly!!!!

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by dry suit diver

as much as they like .

Unite doesn't actually run the country as much as it thinks it does, and yes its all about pensions again whats the company offering whats Unite telling its members to reject.

Tragicus would have been a far better name.


DSD a not so proud Unite member today.

well I found out what the new proposals are against the existing. its on the BBC website.


its better than nurses get or teachers for that matter.

seems fair to me what the company are proposing.

or company could continue with the economiclly unviable existing situation and shut the plant in a few years , that would really help wouldn't it.


My dad was told nearly 30 years ago that company pensions were going to hit trouble in the early part of the 21st century, this by a , and this is so sweet, aTGWU advisor who said that all members were being advised to take out a personal plan.


he got his own and advised me to get my own when i started work. I did and I am going to be just about OK if i retire at 65.

[Adrian Kelland]

Originally Posted by dry suit diver

well I found out what the new proposals are against the existing. its on the BBC website.


its better than nurses get or teachers for that matter.

It must be the best final salary setup I have ever heard of - 25% non-contributory!

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by Adrian Kelland

It must be the best final salary setup I have ever heard of - 25% non-contributory!

I beleive it was the old BP agreement. Would serve them right if ineos reorganised the company and made all workforce reapply for jobs on far crappier terms. which they could quite easily.

[chrisch]

Originally Posted by dry suit diver

I beleive it was the old BP agreement. Would serve them right if ineos reorganised the company and made all workforce reapply for jobs on far crappier terms. which they could quite easily.

Or everyone that works there could just claim unfair dismissal and leave the company fucked. That would be better. If no one sticks up for themselves everyone gets shafted. Like we are now

Chris

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by chrisch

Or everyone that works there could just claim unfair dismissal and leave the company fucked. That would be better. If no one sticks up for themselves everyone gets shafted. Like we are now

Chris

how can they claim unfair if the company has reorganised?


new staffing structure a damn good lawyer and the problem solved.

its happened to a company i worked for we all had to reapply for a job and the terms were better for some positions but worse for others, the positions were changed enough to make them different. it was a good way for the company to get rid of deadwood.

a lot of the issues at grangemouth seem to be union driven, and I have the greatest respect for unions if they operate properly but a lot of unions work on intimidation , oh and before the unionists get on the soapbox I remember the JEL and how people were intimidated into joining the union, thankfully the union proper realised what was going on and distanced itself from the breakaways that tried to screw Drakes over completion.

where will it end if they get what they want this time, another one for silk toilet rolls in a months time ???


as I said earlier unions knew 30 years ago what was coming in the pensions scheme and anybody who joins ineos is going to be of an age where they should have their own ' insurance ' plan anyway.

[Dave Abraham]

Originally Posted by String

The paranoid lunatics are out in force today even down here.

No fuel to be had anywhere at any cost NOT because of a reduction in supply but purely due to demand being up by a factor of 10.

Panic buying creating an artificial shortage.

Thus proving the generally low IQ of the general public as a whole.

No problems up here in the Northwest just went to fill up my dive van earlier this evening about 7pm and there was only two other cars on the forecourt. Anyhoo got my motion lotion for the weekends trip now so i'm OK.

[stewbie]

All comes back to tax in the end.

I was a wee bit annoyed at the furore over the 10p income tax cut. For the first time in living memory the middle income earners would be slightly better off (although most of the gain was taken up with the increase in national insurance).

What happens? People complain that those on lower incomes lose out, and there is a re-think?

I've lost out on every bloody budget I can remember as a middle income earner with no kids. For once I bloody win, and people complain!!

Bloody hate bloody taxes!