Surveillance Society

[Rydive]

A bit heavy maybe, but....I went in to PC world the other day to buy a new printer, when I got to the checkout I was asked for my address and postcode. I then remembered that I had been through this before with PC World. I asked the guy on the checkout why he needed my address and postcode, he said "it's for warranty puposes". I told him that I didn't want to give hime it because I didn't want junk mail, but he was unable to put the printer through the till without it. So I gave him a made up address and postcode.

There is absolutely no need for them to have my name and address unless I want/need them to have it. You get funny looks from the other people behind you, like your some kind of wierdo who's just being a pain in the ass. It amazes me just how much of our information is out in the public or at least comercial domain already. Then I read a bit of this report:

http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documen...eport_2006.pdf

I know that I will sound like some crazy conspiracy theorist, but that's not the case. I am currently studying human rights law, and in particular stuff surrounding a right to privacy - you would be absolutely amazed what is going on with your personal information, and what could be done with it in the future.

Don't tell the feckers anything!

"Like the border, the shopping centre and school, the wider city of 2016 is at once
more under surveillance yet sometimes less obviously so at an immediate glance.
Security has been aestheticised; designed into many of the buildings and surveillance
is built into the infrastructure and architecture – it is ubiquitous but has
disappeared.

Many important state buildings which had been surrounded by
concrete barricades after 2001, now appear open once again, but are instead
protected by a variety of sensors linked to impenetrable automated barricades that
sink into the ground when not immediately needed."

The above government reports predictions for 2016

[Jay_Benson]

I was going to comment but my boss is watching.....







I'll just get my coat. I may be some time.

[NeilB]

The government here has my finger prints, blood type and test my blood for communicable nasties every two years.
Deosn't worry me......I need the work!

[CotoChris]

Ikea asks my postcode but here in Portugal the postcodes are so vain it narrows down a small town.

I just learned in the UK the police can't flag down any car without a reason. Coming back from the warehouse the police stopped me for no reason other than check documents and look around the car. Whilst in Portugal they tend to do it one car at a time in australia they can stop up to 15 or so cars and do a major check on them all.

[TerryH]

Machine mart do it as well and I always annoy the shop staff when I
refuse to tell them.

I NEVER give info out that isnt absolutely neccessary.

My Junk mail? Almost non-existent

[CotoChris]

Why not give the postcode of that store, or another store. Can always give the postcode of someone whom you dislike.....

[NeilB]

Originally Posted by CotoChris

I just learned in the UK the police can't flag down any car without a reason.

A reason?

'Your brake light didn't come on sir.'

'It is now.'

'OK, never mind, but can I see your licence now we are here.'


....don't tell me it don't happen.

[Lazlo]

Which doesn't work btw. (Short version: CCTV costs billions and hasn't worked. Police response: we need to spend lots more.)

Originally Posted by Coto Chris

I just learned in the UK the police can't flag down any car without a reason.

In the UK, the police can shoot people dead, and don't have to give a reason other than "National Security". The officers in charge get promoted.

Jacqui Smith says it's ok for the police to harrass people that the police have decided are a threat to normal people. I actually felt physically sick when I heard that.

In the UK, the police can lock people up without charge or trial for a month and a half.

But then, as Blair said, the Rules of the game have changed.

[MarkP]

[quote=Lazlo;922384]Which doesn't work btw. (Short version: CCTV costs billions and hasn't worked. Police response: we need to spend lots more.)

Marvellous, isn't it? I love this sort of logic - it's so easy to apply to any situation.

I think the real problem is that all systems are open to abuse, so the more comprehensive the system the more abusable it becomes.

[liamm]

Originally Posted by CotoChris

Ikea asks my postcode but here in Portugal the postcodes are so vain it narrows down a small town.

I just learned in the UK the police can't flag down any car without a reason. .

Are you sure you arnt confusing UK with the US and its " probable cause" regulation. Certainly in our province the "Peelers" can stop you on suspicion, doesnt bother me.

As far as the cctv idea goes ...... why not just have more coppers and spend a bit more training/educating them. The one time i needed cctv footage (car damage) the camera was pointing the wrong way keeping an eye on the sea .......