The War on Political Correctness

[Mr T.]

Originally Posted by jamesp

Free guided walks on the fens?

Lovely, and when one of the Clueless city dwelling ethinic/disabled/disadvantaged (now majority) manages to trip on an unmade path, I bet there will be some solictor willing to do a no win/no fee speculative claim. I wonder how many volunters consider the risks they are taking, by dealing with the general public. Hang on, I instruct scuba divers!

White, single, male,employed. Am I a minority yet?

LOL mate - you might have hit up on something here: 'Chav Tours' - "Visit all your favourite tarns, tors and lakes (NB: you might get your trainers dirty)".

[Fiona]

I can't wait to hear what my regular club buddy Jenny will say about this. She and hubby Graham go on these guided walks in the Peak District almost weekly.

They are both retired and very fit, Jenny loves these walks and as she sometimes goes on her own and shares the love of the walk with like minded people. Although she has told me that some people turn up very unprepared for walking in the hills.

Bit like the innercity school last year walking in, I think Scotland wearing bin bags for protection.

[R.Soper]

I worked for five years as a police officer in Scotland, and it is very interesting to hear some of the arguments on this "thread."

Everyone i know in the police in the UK are sick of the system, the political correctness, posotive descrimination (sorry, not allowed to call it that, its called "affirmitave action," though i can't see what the difference is,) and how it seems the offenders have all the "rights" these days, while the people who have had the misfortune to be on the recieving end of the criminals actions get shafted by the system. They then crucified in court by defence lawyers, many of whom are milkiing the legal aid system on behalf of their unemployed client. I worked in a very big city, and we did not have any time to help normal law abiding citizens, because we spend all our time dealing with the career criminals which the courts do not seem to want to lock up. We were at "the beck and call" of some sections of society (often known as the chav's,) who do not (and have never + have no intention of,) make any contribution in the way of taxes, who expect you to wipe their backsides for them, and then are the first to complain about you if they percieve they are not being treated like royalty. It was these same people who seemed to me to use the bulk of NHS resources, would be the people assaulting either police officers, or nurses in A&E on Fri / Sat night, and would never be away from the welfare office. This particular section of society does see "the dole" to be used as a stop gap, to help them out of a tight spot, they see it as a way of life, and this attitude is passed down through the generations, and they effectively become dependant on these handouts, as they forget how to go out and work for a living.

I will try to stop ranting now, but it is the end result of spending the last five years of trying to work with the system, seeing these people abuse the system at the cost of the rest of society, and having to take their sh!t. In the end i needed a break from it all, as i was getting rather bitter and twisted (you may have noticed i still am,) and so moved to the Cayman Islands on a career break for a couple of years. Interestingly here in the Cayman Islands it is the opposite. There is no income support, and as in the UK there ARE jobs out there, so it forces the undesirable sections of society out there to work and pay their own way, rather than using public resources by way of the dole. There is no free medical care, which i am not sure if i agree with, but once again it stops these people from making A&E, and the NHS system their "second home," (no more meathadone prescriptions.) There is also much less in the way of human rights, which once again i am not sure i agree with, because it does mean the system (or lack of it,) is open to abuse by law enforcement officers,) however the general consiquence of this is people are afraid to get on the wrong side of the law, as if they do they get locked up. This means (even taking into account Cayman is a small island,) there is much less crime, and what also helps is the courts have a much more "zero tolerance" approach to offendors. I am not an advocate of locking people up and then throwing away the key, but there has to be a balance between rehabilitation and some sense of justice having had taken place on behalf of the victim.

There you are, for those who have been bothered to read this far, i have finally got it off my chest! And for those who may critisize me fot being a bit "right wing," i am no less a product of the enviroment i had to work in for five years, than the "chav's" are a product of their enviroment, which they have had to be brought up, and live in. I promise to shut up now!

[Mr T.]

Like a baby needs Botox...


This is the No2 most important item on the Department of Work and Pension Intranet site, I publish it here so members can join in the celebration and be assured that tax payers' money is not being wasted at the DWP. Perhaps it will generate some debate; or members may have some stories about Lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgender people that I can forward to the relevant authorities to add to the history:

"Tuesday 18 January 2005

Lesbian, gay, bi-sexual and transgender history month February 2005


Throughout February a short series of articles celebrating Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History Month will appear on the Diversity And Equality Division

The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History Month is an opportunity for everyone to learn more about the histories of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people in Britain.

The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History Month has been welcomed by the Government, particularly the Rt Hon Jacqui Smith, who said “I was pleased to hear recently about plans by the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender communities to designate February each year to be Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History Month. As the Government Minister responsible for equality, I am delighted to support this idea”.

The idea came from School’s Out!, a campaigning organisation of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people involved in education. They took their inspiration partly from the United States of America, where Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History Month has been celebrated since 1994."


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So, and with the same level of Gov't urgency and priority, we can expect a 'Roof Thatchers & Clint Grinders Awareness and History Week' any time soon...

[Pigpen]

In the spirit of equality, will we soon be having a heterosexual (neither a rug muncher or ar*e bandit), I only do it with people of the opposite sex, and I do not wish to have my knackers cut of or wear a frock, month?

[chrisch]

Originally Posted by Mr T.

The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History Month is an opportunity for everyone to learn more about the histories of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people in Britain.

I can't imagine many people - whatever thier sexual persuasion - really give a monkeys provided the rest of society remain tollerant. I have only one friend who leans in that direction and I am sure he would prefer the money spent stopping people from bombing pubs than learning about victorian shirt-lifters.

Maybe the money should be spent to educate people about the dangers of right-wing christian and muslim groups who preach intollerance?

Chris

[Hoppy]

Originally Posted by chrisch

tollerant.
Maybe the money should be spent to educate people about the dangers of right-wing christian and muslim groups who preach intollerance?
Chris

Or spend it teaching people to spell

Sorry, I'm leaving RIGHT NOW !

[Mr T.]

Originally Posted by chrisch

I can't imagine many people - whatever thier sexual persuasion - really give a monkeys provided the rest of society remain tollerant. I have only one friend who leans in that direction and I am sure he would prefer the money spent stopping people from bombing pubs than learning about victorian shirt-lifters.

Maybe the money should be spent to educate people about the dangers of right-wing christian and muslim groups who preach intollerance?

Chris

Amen to that. Well done Chris - thank God someone gets it. Sorry if the satire was a little heavy-handed.

[Zdu]

Originally Posted by chrisch

I can't imagine many people - whatever thier sexual persuasion - really give a monkeys provided the rest of society remain tollerant. I have only one friend who leans in that direction and I am sure he would prefer the money spent stopping people from bombing pubs than learning about victorian shirt-lifters.

Maybe the money should be spent to educate people about the dangers of right-wing christian and muslim groups who preach intollerance?

Chris

So how exactly do you teach tolerance? By sitting people down and saying "be tolerant!"?

I'm guessing here but I'd imagine that the whole purpose of this project is aimed at projecting a diverse range of people in history who were of a different sexuality. In other words getting across that anybody can be gay. Fair enough.

Having said that "The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History Month" is an awful title which is going to put a lot of people instantly on the defensive. It just screams of a PC desparation to be inclusive. Plus, ff ever there was a title that was going to tickle The Dail Mail's reactionary headline generator this is it.

As usual with many such schemes while the aims are noble quite often they are scuppered from the outset by such ham-fisted self labelling and thus end up preaching to the converted. This is a shame as awareness can only be a positive thing.

I'll go away now and brace my self for the wave of red blobs.

[Dinger]

Rescue teams refused lottery money.


MOUNTAIN rescue heroes were refused Lottery cash — because they haven’t saved enough asylum seekers, it was claimed yesterday.

The Bowland and Pennine team in Lancashire applied for a £200,000 grant to build a new emergency response base.

But they were told they did not qualify for the Community Fund payout since their work does not serve “those in greatest disadvantage in society”.

The Fund, which distributes cash under the title of the Big Lottery Fund, lists six qualifying groups — including asylum seekers, ethnic minorities, the elderly and disabled.

The rejection was slammed last night by mountain rescue chiefs, whose volunteers give up their time to save lives.

Peter Howells, assistant secretary of the national body Mountain Rescue, England and Wales said: “Mountain rescue does not discriminate against race, colour creed or anything.”

Bowland and Pennine volunteer Paul Heap said: “This rejection was crazy. We are all in favour of helping those who are disadvantaged — but this is about saving people’s lives.

“Last year we were called out 69 times. It’s stupid to turn us down because we don’t fall into any of their categories.”

Tory MP Nigel Evans said: “This sort of political correctness costs lives and is highly stupid and dangerous.”

The 45-strong team — based near Preston — requested the grant to fund a base to house vehicles and equipment.

The application was rejected by the Community Fund’s North West area as it “did not fall within general funding policies”.


Thats all rescue teams stuffed then 'cause lets be honest how many asylum seekers, the elderly and those disabled are found high up on mountains? So how the hell are rescue teams suppose to 'support those in greatest disadvantage in society' (other than the poor sod who just fell 200ft and is clinging to his life in an inaccessible ledge, but lets be honest he really aint disadvantaged is he?) F*ck this sh*te makes me mad as hell.

Dinger