Submatix scr - Advice

[Patrick Casey]

I thought this would be a good place to seek some views on the submatix scr, I have been pondering for a while about buying one. My diving is within the 40m range so this unit appears from what I have read to be suitable for me. I understand that it is a lot lighter than a twinset but does this work out in practice once bail out is included?

I would appreciate any comments particularly from anyone who has already purchased this unit.

[Luddite]

I have one of these unit and love it. It weighs in at less then a 15lt steel. The unit is about 15kg. The bail out is what ever you decide to use. I use a pony for shallow stuff and a 7l ali for deeper dive. I know people that use a 5l on all dives.

If you are intrested in them get in contact with Blue Lagoon

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The run try dives on the unit for £25. They also do a Padi SD for submatix also.

If by any chance you at capenwray this Sunday you are more then welcome to look at mine. Any other question fell free to ask or send a PM

[Woz]

No no no no no. SCR=panties. All the hassle and risks of CCR with none of the advantages IMHO.

What you want for the same money is a REvo 2. Bloody lovely they are. I want one. Full mCCR for £2900.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Woz

No no no no no. SCR=panties. All the hassle and risks of CCR with none of the advantages IMHO.

What you want for the same money is a REvo 2. Bloody lovely they are. I want one. Full mCCR for £2900.

I have to agree with Woz, plus the Revo2 looks well built rather than a large lump of plastic.

Ian

[Woz]

I pulled apart both at LIDS. And a Meg. And an Inspo. In terms of build quality (from an engineer's point of view):

1. REvo2
2. Meg







3. Inspo
4. Submatix

3 and 4 are miles behind. The Inspo is looking really rubbish against the competition these days and the Submatix was like a "my first Rebreather". Duncan's D5 made out of half of B&Q is better built.

If you want lightweight then go for the titanium framed REvo 2. You could pick it up (including cylinders) with your lips.

[Patrick Casey]

Can you explain for me what the importance (or not) of ce certification. Am I right in thinking the Revo can not be certified. Is this an issue regarding training etc?

[scribley]

Originally Posted by Woz

I pulled apart both at LIDS. And a Meg. And an Inspo. In terms of build quality (from an engineer's point of view):

1. REvo2
2. Meg

.

Definitely the wrong way round!!

1. Meg
2. REvo2


Plus the Copis meg isn't much more expensive...

Got to agree though ccr is better and the Revo is a nice unit.

[stevechesh]

Originally Posted by Patrick Casey

Can you explain for me what the importance (or not) of ce certification. Am I right in thinking the Revo can not be certified. Is this an issue regarding training etc?

CE cert is a bit of a grey area anyway. If anyone modifies 'X' unit (which many people do), to anything other than what was originally tested to gain the cert in the first place, then the approval is invalid......

The Kiss isn't CE certified, but many people dive it, the same as home builds....

As Woz has said, have a look at the Revo, and as scribley stated, look at the Meg (I've seen hers and it's a nice setup).

I've also heard that the Submatix unit is also only CE approved for surface use only. Now i may be wrong, and most likely am wrong on this, but it may be worth looking into first..

Steve

[Janos]

Originally Posted by stevechesh

I've also heard that the Submatix unit is also only CE approved for surface use only. Now i may be wrong, and most likely am wrong on this, but it may be worth looking into first.

There is a huge, huge, huge, huge debate going on on RBW about CE marking that has got very complicated very quickly. However a lot of people are arguing that you can't CE mark an MCCR rebreather, as the standard requires it to sustain life at a variety of different breathing rates WITHOUT user intervention, which an MCCR cannot do by design.

Janos

[Dangerous Dan]

Originally Posted by Woz

What you want for the same money is a REvo 2. Bloody lovely they are. I want one. Full mCCR for £2900.

Ohhh they do look very nice!!!