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Old 04-11-02, 05:25 PM
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"When I dive, all my mates know my family, and I know theirs. When I dive with them, I expect them to put safety first, even if that means leaving me behind to ensure they get to the surface alive, one death is hard enough without two. Our sport is a high risk pastime. I do not expect someone to risk death to save me, my buddies know the way i feel about this. "
I agree entirely. I've told my regular buddies I would do everything i could to save them but I'm not prepared to follow them into death. Even those of us without children have people that are more or less dependent on us in various ways. It's bad enough one family's lives being devastated, let alone two. However, some people take the opposite view. When I expressed these feelings on a Swedish forum a few months ago, I was immediately attacked by a couple of techies for having a bad attitude and told they wouldn't dive with somebody that said that. They considered it self-evident that their buddies must be prepared to sacrifice their lives to save them.
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Quote[/b] ] However, some people take the opposite view. When I expressed these feelings on a Swedish forum a few months ago, I was immediately attacked by a couple of techies for having a bad attitude and told they wouldn't dive with somebody that said that. They considered it self-evident that their buddies must be prepared to sacrifice their lives to save them.
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:lol: Swedish suicide squad! They must be exceptionally blonde! I agree with you and DM, I'd want my buddy to knock theirselves out to save me but not to the point where they die too. Of course te one thing that has passed unnoticed here is the contradiction between this thread and the &quot;solo diving&quot; issue :flame:
No! please ! I was only kidding.....aaaaaarrrrrggggg....


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Old 04-11-02, 08:17 PM
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Actually, Steve, you've made a good point. My answer to the above-mentioned guys that attacked me was in fact that if I were to be required to be willing to die for my buddy I would have only two options – to give up diving, which I'm not prepared to do yet, or to dive solo.
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I once read an article where the US navy took a pot over to truck and gave free recompression therapy to native divers.
Listen to this some divers years after being bent showed marked improvement!
What I do find very uncomfortable are the boffins that are doing research in to micro bubbles and sub clinical damage cumalative over years.
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Don't worry Geoff - the cholestorol in your bacon butties will kill ya long before then!
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No, recompression treatment is not always a &quot;one-hit&quot; deal. See Neil Miller's (Webguy @ DiveOz) account of his treatment for a bend here

Also, as mentioned before, the extreme case of a certain Mr. Pyle can be read here
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Surely if the native divers are voluntarily &quot;doing what they do&quot; then these Navy guys are helping matters? Of course, AIUI, most of the phillipino pearl divers are a bit less than voluntary.

As well as micro-bubbles etc, there are other health concerns in regard of diving, see
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Personally,</a> I'm very interested in the effects of free-radicals on divers, a recent paper demonstrated that inflammatory cytokines (ie molecules involved in illness) were activated in response to diving, ie diving can make you feel ill in the same way an infection can.
Unfortunately, the DDRC doesn't have funding to study these things. Mind, I'd like to combine (someday) my work and my hobby to investigate what else (cellularly speaking) is activated/inhibited/ up or down regulated in response to diving.
Well, now that I'vew got my &quot;works&quot; head on , better go an do something I suppose...
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As no-one seems to have come up with an option 4 - something different, try this one for fun:
You ascend to stop depth and send up your emergency blob.  You then take the casualty's reel, tie a loose loop around your own line and then to the casualty.  Transfer some weight from the casualty to you.  Reel him to the surface at a safe rate.
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I think you would find that very hard to do, in fact I think it would be imposable.

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I get knackered bringing up an anchor up from 30 metres:lol:
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