PADI Deep Diver Manual

[And]

<font color='#0000FF'>Hi

Yes Matt it seems to have gone a bit awry. By the sounds of it Digger is teaching this course and needs a manual for his student. I cannot help him but you raised the point of wanting to dive deeper and needing a cert card. I think its a bad idea and a bad policy of PADI.

My point is that why do you NEED to dive deeper than 30 mtrs. Your example is Scapa. There are unfortunately plenty of incidents in that particular area because it is seen as recreational diving and plainly isn't.

Mark Chase agrees that its doubles or pony minimum. More kit, more familiarity, possible gas switches to accelerate deco. That takes care of gas but what about narcosis ? Some of those wrecks are 40 mtr +. I'm sorry Matt, I have to disagree that the PADI course is a good idea or necessary at all.

I'll shut up now. Start a thread if you want to debate further.

WL

[John Gulliver]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (wetlettuce @ May 19 2003,18:14)]Going deeper than 30 mtrs realistically ventures into deco and therefore eliminates the ESA (Emergency Swimming Ascent) advantage of rec diving. I know this will be controversial to some but its the truth.

WL

Sorry, WL, but I simply can't agree. Firstly, a dive to, say, 35 metres doesn't necessarily mean you're in deco, unless you're doing a square-profile dive, which I rarely do. As regards getting narked (the usual reason put forward for not diving deeper than 30 metres), I dive to between 30 and 40 m on practically every dive I do (and I dive more than most) and have NEVER experienced nitrogen narcosis. I've done &quot;dry dives&quot; to 50 m and been quite capable of doing failrly complicated mathematical calulations and other tests of logical reasoning and getting the answers right, so don't try to convince me that I'm narked without realising it. Several of my buddies say the same. It's just not true that everybody is more or less narked over 30 m. Some are – some are significantly affected shallower than that – but some of us are not. I'm not saying I'll never experience &quot;the raptures of the deep&quot; but I've done 1250 dives without doing so up to now.

[MATTBIN]

John
I have started as suggested a new thread as this one's been hijacked. Surface Interval - Padi Deep.
Matt

[Mark]

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (wetlettuce @ May 18 2003,18:58)]By the sounds of it Digger is teaching this course and needs a manual for his student.

LOL - Whoops - Well spotted. I'm sure Digger will fill his course with lots of excellent information

[Digger]

<font color='#000080'>Easy! Christ, I only wanted to borrow a manual.

FYI, I dive air to 50m, and I know what I'm doing. I know that will shock and appall many, but that's me. I'm a deep air diver, and that's just the way I am. Most of my dives are for pleasure, and the challenge of deep air diving gives me that.

I'm doing the course so that once I get my IDC done I can teach it, and also it opens the door for PADI TecRec. I don't even want to open that can of worms yet, but it's an option I'm not writing off.

I have got my amusing BSAC 50m on air ticket, otherwise known as a DL cert. No preparation offered in BSAC for these sorts of depths on a highly inappropriate gas, to be honest.

So, has anyone got a manual out there? I just want to borrow it for a few days...

[steve-k]

if you dive deeper than your cert level you are not breaking any laws, just club recomentations, furthermore if mr jo public went out and purchased a full set of kit dived to 100m and killed himself, would he then not be insured by his life cover?? as legaly he has not broken any laws

just a thaught

[MATTBIN]

Steve
depends on what his life cover says, possibly something along the lines of ' we shall not pay out if diving is beyond the qualification level' i.e. if you are not certified you aint covered.
You may not have broken the law but you have broken the insurance contract.

Matt

[Mdemon]

All this talk of PADI deep courses... I'm sure I did a Deep dive as an option for my AO in '91. &nbsp;Have things changed? &nbsp;I did about 42m on that dive and learnt my maths isn't any better at 40m than it is at 0m...

Didn't come with a manual - sorry Digs. &nbsp;(Got that switch by the way. &nbsp;Nice one.)