PADI Deep Diver Manual

[Digger]

<font color='#000080'>OK, so a mate of mine is doing my PADI Deep Diver Spec. in a couple of weeks time, but I don't have a manual.

I don't really need it for reference etc., I just need to do the knowledge reviews beforehand.

Has anyone got a copy I can borrow for a couple of nights in the Nottingham area?

Even better, has someone got one for sale at a bargain student price?

If anyone can help, please e-mail me at chocolateluvmunki@hotmail.com PM me or call on 07813873189.

Digs.

[Mark]

<font color='#000080'>Hi,

I would urge you/your mate not to waste money on the deep specialty and do the PADI basic nitrox course instead as it is far more usefull. I did the deep course a few years ago when I knew no better

Mark.

[MATTBIN]

Trouble is Mark if you dont do it and go beyong current cert level i.e. 30m AOW you might invalidate any life insurance.

Regards
Matt

[Mark]

Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (MATTBIN @ May 18 2003,18:05)]go beyong current cert level i.e. 30m AOW you might invalidate any life insurance.

Regards
Matt

<font color='#000080'>So don't dive beyond your cert level/training

[And]

<font color='#0000FF'>Hi

In that case Matt he should stick to 30 mtrs and get a normoxic trimix or equivalent to do the deeper stuff and get proper training. This PADI scheme to get people to dive deep on air usually with Recreational kit is ludicrous and dangerous. Going deeper than 30 mtrs realistically ventures into deco and therefore eliminates the ESA (Emergency Swimming Ascent) advantage of rec diving. I know this will be controversial to some but its the truth.

WL

[MATTBIN]

Mark
in one breath you are saying dont do the deep speciality in the next get correct training. Which is it? If Diggers mate wants to do a deep (&gt;30m) dive surely he should do a course/speciality. Yet you seem to advocate do a Nitrox course which I didnt think included a deep dive.
Matt

[Mark]

<font color='#000080'>Matt,

I said don't exceed you training. Like WL says, if you want to dive deeper than 30m there are far better ways of doing it than on air with recreational gear and a poxy PADI deep diver ticket. I found the course to be very short on information and mainly just to give you the experience of being narked at 40m on air. Whats the point of that? If you want to dive deep do a normoxic trimix course. The nitrox course will be of far more overall benefit than the deep ticket (even if it is only to 30m - which is a good thing anyway).



Mark.

[MATTBIN]

So what started out as 'any body got a manual' has ended up as a push to do normoxic trimix which needs Eanx as a starting 'badge' for somebody that might want to dive to 35m which would excedd his AOW 'badge'. &nbsp;Is this not a bit of overkill chaps. I might do Scapa next year so I'd need some sort of training to go deeper than 30m or risk life insurance invalidity but now you guys are suggesting I go trimix with stage cylinders etc. &nbsp;

Matt

[Mark Chase]

<font color='#000F22'>The Padi deep dive speciality was part of my adventure diver cert. It explained the basics of narcosis and how it can affect the diver and it went into kit configuration for safety, dive planning for deep dives etc. BUT the PADI idea of a deep dive is in the 30m range.

It was an OK course as an introduction to someone who has only done 15-20m so far. I dont regret doing it. When I did it it was my first 30m dive.

Whilst I aplaud the use of Trimix in the 40+ range I think leeping from 15-20m dives streight into normoxic trimix is a bit much. Bear in mind that TDI have a max training depth of 60m for that course. I did a lot of 30 somthings and a fair few accelorated deco before venturing into that zone.

On my deep dive the instructor sugested using a redundant air supply for low viz diving so he wasn't actualy advocating single tank diving in any thing less than the clear blue waters of PADI land.

So my advice is, if you are venturing into 30+ for the first time it's an OK course. I am sure the UK instructors will do a bit of adapting for ambient conditions. That said, get a pony now or twin up, NO ARGUMENT unless your planning on Red Sea only and IMHO even in the clear blue stuff redundancy is a good thing.

Any course is a good course if the instructor is a good instructor.

Good luck with what ever you decide.

Mark Chase

[MATTBIN]

Mark (Chase)
ow = 18m
aow = 30m
deep = 40m
all depths are max.
I agree with you in that Padi regard deep as 30/40m and as such is suitable for somebody who wants to dive to 35ish m.
Beyond that is beyond the scope of 'Deep' at which point some other course needs to be taken, maybe trimix.

Matt