Yorkshire Divers

London Diving Chamber - Emergency Recompression Facility
Go Back   YD Scuba Diving Forums > General Diving Forums > Surface Interval
User Name
Password

Welcome to the YD Scuba forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

Surface Interval: Discuss Full to bursting effect in the General Diving Forums forums: Hi All, I am trying not to give too much away here.  I have just done a BSAC theory exam ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 13-12-03, 01:25 PM
Paul Beal's Avatar
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Normanton, West Yorkshire
Posts: 1,132
Paul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the sea
Imported post

Hi All,

I am trying not to give too much away here.  I have just done a BSAC theory exam (quite high up the ladder!!) and am very puzzled over one question.

This questions asked about the "full to bursting effect" in the lungs. They wanted the proper name for it. The options were something like the Paul Nicholas effect, the heir von limbo effect - terms like that.

Has anyone got any more of a idea than me?? Please don't tell me it is something that entry level students learn!

Paul
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 13-12-03, 05:55 PM
parahandy's Avatar
Senior Member
Recent Blog: Beginners Luck
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Near Blackburn Lancashire
Posts: 1,064
parahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annuallyparahandy dips toes in sea annually
Imported post

It's the Barbara Windsor effect.
It must be, her lungs are or where huge, always looked like they were ready for bursting.
__________________
http://www.yorkshire-divers.com
The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing..if you can fake that, you've got it made.
(Groucho Marx)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 13-12-03, 06:07 PM
Helen F H's Avatar
Divers below, girls on top....
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Scapa Flow, Orkney
Posts: 9,485
Helen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the water
Imported post

those wernt her lungs man.........

and it should be the monica lewinsky effect
__________________
Photos Pink Coffin

Marmite - You spend your time avoiding yeast infections and then you go and eat one....
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 13-12-03, 11:07 PM
Ian B's Avatar
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: South East Kent
Posts: 727
Ian B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm water
Imported post

<font color='#0000FF'>Hi Paul

Difficult without seeing the question. It might be the Hering-Breuer reflex which is a nervous mechanism that limits respiration activity. Stimulation of sensory endings in the lungs limits both inspiration and expiration in ordinary breathing.

Must be a very high level of theory exam if its asking about Hering-Breuer - I last came across it at university, not in any diving manuals.

Prefered the Monica Lewinsky answer myself.

Good luck with the test.
__________________
Ian.

One fin kick beyond.........
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 13-12-03, 11:45 PM
Paul Oliver's Avatar
Dodgy solo deep air diver and pony cylinder user.
 

Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Whitstable, Kent
Posts: 8,663
Paul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the waterPaul Oliver is never out of the water
Imported post

Hi Paul

Mediastinal Emphysema and Pneumothorax.

I think the options in the answers would have been Emphysema and Pneumothorax.

Dive Safe

Another Paul

PS Yes i did have to look up the spelling.



__________________
Paul Oliver
Canterbury Divers
DUE - Dover Underwater Explorers
2 Rules - 1. You books you pays. 2. Always return to the shot
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 14-12-03, 12:59 PM
Paul Beal's Avatar
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Normanton, West Yorkshire
Posts: 1,132
Paul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the seaPaul Beal paddles in the sea
Imported post

Hi Paul,

It wasn't an actual injury I don't think. The question before was actually on interstitial emphysema. I think it was an effect prior to damage. Emphysema/pneumothorax certainly were not options - they were all people's names.

Capel diver,
Hering-breuer effect -now you say that, I think it may have been one of the options and the one I went for (it sounded German and more likely than the Paul Nicholas effect which was another option!!). &nbsp;Thanks very much for that, do you know where I could find any more info?

Now, who can tell me the ideal size of an ice hole to accomodate 2 divers (another pointless question!!).

Cheers,

Paul
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 14-12-03, 02:29 PM
Ian B's Avatar
Senior Member
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: South East Kent
Posts: 727
Ian B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm waterIan B swims in warm water
Imported post

<font color='#0000FF'>Hi again Paul

I think you may have to look in a medical dictionary or text book.

I'm planning to sit the BSAC TIE in the spring so I've been reading the manuals but haven't come across it in there.

I have a copy of Dorland's Medical Dictionery - its in there although not much detail about it. I'm amazed that a diving theory test asks for a name like that.

Best of luck

Ian
__________________
Ian.

One fin kick beyond.........
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 14-12-03, 03:23 PM
Mary's Avatar
Another member of team Amplatzer
 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cheltenham
Posts: 1,703
Mary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkellerMary is a snorkeller
Imported post

Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
Quote[/b] (Paul Beal @ Dec. 14 2003,12:59)]Thanks very much for that, do you know where I could find any more info?

Now, who can tell me the ideal size of an ice hole to accomodate 2 divers (another pointless question!!).
<font color='#008080'>well wasn't it the index of my clinical medicine book and that is a good 2 1/2 inches thick.

as for the ice question surely that depends on the size of their beer guts &nbsp;
__________________
50 hours and counting... now back on track again!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 14-12-03, 03:30 PM
Helen F H's Avatar
Divers below, girls on top....
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Scapa Flow, Orkney
Posts: 9,485
Helen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the waterHelen F H is never out of the water
Imported post

<font color='#000080'>Nah deffinatley the size of their ego........beer guts can be sucked in
__________________
Photos Pink Coffin

Marmite - You spend your time avoiding yeast infections and then you go and eat one....
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 14-12-03, 04:44 PM
daz's Avatar
daz daz is offline
Moderator - who only dives as he appears a third taller under water....
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: There and back again
Posts: 3,622
daz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm waterdaz swims in warm water
Imported post

Just out of interest. &nbsp;

What is the relevance of the question in relation to diving. &nbsp;Is the information really useful for say teaching diving or is it just a fairly pointless question that has no relevance other than being able to describe full to bursting effect using the correct terminology.

It seems that terms such as Pneumothorax and pulmonary barotrauma are great to know, but as long as people know that a burst lung is a serious injury and the reasons it can occur are understood does it matter if they don't know the exact terminology. &nbsp;(Well obviously quite handy in medical circles )

Daz
__________________
Underwater rock juggler extraordinaire

Breathe in, breathe out. Repeat as necessary
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Sponsored Links

Yorkshire Divers - RSS Feed
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:02 AM.
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Trademark and all rights reserved : © YD.com Ltd (2006)
YD.com Ltd (Registered in England - 05886696)
Other sites : Golf Clubs | New Premiership Football Kits | MP3 Portable Players | MP3 Players For Sale | Replica Football Kits | Cheap Football Boots

Forums Directory