emergancy signal missuse

[TerryH]

Originally Posted by Janos

It sounds like it was the worng decision to use the emergency signal, but as you say, he is not as experienced as you are.

I think that you need to temper it a bit, and although you would not use the emergency signal in that situation, if he's unsure in the future it's ok.

Janos

What he says.

It's easy to say that he shoudnt have made such a faff, but to him he WAS
in distress. A bit of diplomacy here might not go amiss and i'd certainly
soften any response with a clear explanation of procedure, but without
crticism.

[Mal Bridgeman]

Originally Posted by scubagit

Don't think Steve is making the new guy feel bad. It's just his brother and buddy called him to issue an unwarrented bollocking.
Steve asked him should he have approached at full speed and risk running over divers who had not yet surfaced?

As for his weightbelt, don't know if he was THAT distressed but we may never know the answer to that.

Ok ... maybe I read too much into this phrase in the OP

Originally Posted by scuba steve irl

ok so I tell him what the distress signal is for

[scuba g]

Your the cox, and let him know that you had to make a safe and controlled journey to pick him up, as other divers in the water you have to access the path and the situation before speeding off to get him, 30 seconds sounds perfectly acceptable, kick him in the nuts and steal his wallet, thats something else for him to moan about!

[SoggyFox]

Originally Posted by scuba g

Your the cox, and let him know that you had to make a safe and controlled journey to pick him up, as other divers in the water you have to access the path and the situation before speeding off to get him, 30 seconds sounds perfectly acceptable, kick him in the nuts and steal his wallet, thats something else for him to moan about!

i alluded to it in my other post but why are you such a distance away from where your divers are likely to appear, if you were sat 5 yards from the shot station holding would the diver of needed to make a distress signal he could of shouted to you, all he probably saw was a rib at full pelt 100m away and reacted to it. So what if you've got water in the rib, you'll be getting loads more water in the rib when you pull the soaking wet divers back in later.

[TerryH]

Originally Posted by SoggyFox

i alluded to it in my other post but why are you such a distance away from where your divers are likely to appear, if you were sat 5 yards from the shot station holding would the diver of needed to make a distress signal he could of shouted to you, all he probably saw was a rib at full pelt 100m away and reacted to it. So what if you've got water in the rib, you'll be getting loads more water in the rib when you pull the soaking wet divers back in later.

Oh I dunno, but I suspect a long slack on a neap tide would put a diver's
blob close to a RIB's prop. Maybe it's me, but reckon that might be the answer

[NeilB]

So, you are holding station 5m away from the shot. The panicked diver comes, rapidly, to the surface and bangs his head on the bottom of your boat.

You can't win.

Either you are too far away or to close. Only you as cox can make the call judging the conditions on the day. We weren't there. Your divers could not see.

You have been assessed as a Diver Cox'n and passed. Let them without the qualification try the test and be found wanting!

Neil

ps. I may have waited 5mins before emptying the boat of water.

[SoggyFox]

Originally Posted by TerryH

Oh I dunno, but I suspect a long slack on a neap tide would put a diver's
blob close to a RIB's prop.

finning 100m, 2 minutes from hitting the shot, impressive. we're talking in this instance of the time immediately after dropping the divers off.

Originally Posted by NeilB

So, you are holding station 5m away from the shot. The panicked diver comes, rapidly, to the surface and bangs his head on the bottom of your boat.

do you not place you boat down tide of the shot and line, rather than directly over it?

[NeilB]

Originally Posted by SoggyFox

do you not place you boat down tide of the shot and line, rather than directly over it?

Where an ascending diver would drift to?

My point was that only the cox on the day knows the full facts as he was the only one on the boat. All the rest of the divers, especially the brother, are not qualified to comment.

[TerryH]

Originally Posted by SoggyFox

do you not place you boat down tide of the shot and line, rather than directly over it?

Err no, not ever. Boat is up-tide of the shot.

Divers go in and drift on, divers send blob up and that goes away from shot.
Either way no chance of a diver swimming up-tide and matching blob to
prop (which would be a bad thing).

[SoggyFox]

Originally Posted by TerryH

Divers go in and drift on, divers send blob up and that goes away from shot.
Either way no chance of a diver swimming up-tide and matching blob to
prop (which would be a bad thing).

i'm confused are we talking wreck or drift, i though we were talking about dropping them on a wreck when you mentioned long neaps slack and finning distance.

if they're on a wreck coming onto slack they could be anyway from the shot. being down from the shot, would mean any inexperienced diver having ascended would be coming up roughly in line between shot and bouy. We're only really talking the 5 minutes or so covering the bouy for any diver to have reascended the line having had trouble, after that its lazy circles at distance.