george irvine

[Ahmed Adly]

Originally Posted by wilbo

as an aside -

I hope with a thread title like this that the subject can be discussed in a mature way without the usual mudslinging and 'them and us' direction that they normally take.

I thought you where a fub person

[Ahmed Adly]

By the way..... What the hell are we talking about?

[scuba steve irl]

who cares we are talking dir techie stuff without the dir buff's .

wahoooo

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by scuba steve irl

who cares we are talking dir techie stuff without the dir buff's .

wahoooo

mwahahahahahahahahah Don't worry, they are like buses - none about for ages - then three will come at once.......

Di

[scuba steve irl]

Originally Posted by Madfish

mwahahahahahahahahah Don't worry, they are like buses - none about for ages - then three will come at once.......

Di

yes its gonna happen just like an avalanch starts slowly and then it all comes at once

[NotDeadYet]

Originally Posted by scuba steve irl

george is largly held as the "father of tech" he has contributed to most aspects of technical diving and was the leader of the onsloth of DIR .

Originally Posted by scuba steve irl

google him .

i used him as a basis for my non modular lecture for my instructor exams , he pioneered an expression called the oxygen window . deco theory .

No offence but that's absolute bollocks.

I got into tech diving in the early 90's and I don't remember seeing any mention of GI3 until about 95/96. Tech diving was well established long before that. Billy Deans wrote the first technical training courses and did far more than anyone else at building tech diving up; IANTD, TDI & ANDI had been going for years; NSS-CDS & NACD had been running cave diving courses commercially for a long time.

He didn't pioneer the expression "oxygen window" either. I don't know who did but it certainly wasn't him. In fact, he didn't pioneer a hell of a lot. Everything he knew about cave diving came from Parker Turner, kit developments came from Bill Gavin & Bill Main and general diving from Billy Deans. JJ did far more behind the scenes to establish what is DIR but had the good sense to act normal.

Sorry if I sound a bit narcy but a. I'm hungover and b. there are too many people that think technical diving is a recent invention.

I heartily recommend everyone with an interest in tech diving to read "Mixed Gas Diving" by Mount, Gilliam et al and "Deep Diving" by Brett Gilliam. Both are extremely good at establishing the time line on the development of what is tech diving.

[scuba steve irl]

told ya some1 would jump on board . lets wait for the avalanche

[scuba steve irl]

Originally Posted by NotDeadYet

No offence but that's absolute bollocks.

I got into tech diving in the early 90's and I don't remember seeing any mention of GI3 until about 95/96. Tech diving was well established long before that. Billy Deans wrote the first technical training courses and did far more than anyone else at building tech diving up; IANTD, TDI & ANDI had been going for years; NSS-CDS & NACD had been running cave diving courses commercially for a long time.

He didn't pioneer the expression "oxygen window" either. I don't know who did but it certainly wasn't him. In fact, he didn't pioneer a hell of a lot. Everything he knew about cave diving came from Parker Turner, kit developments came from Bill Gavin & Bill Main and general diving from Billy Deans. JJ did far more behind the scenes to establish what is DIR but had the good sense to act normal.

Sorry if I sound a bit narcy but a. I'm hungover and b. there are too many people that think technical diving is a recent invention.

I heartily recommend everyone with an interest in tech diving to read "Mixed Gas Diving" by Mount, Gilliam et al and "Deep Diving" by Brett Gilliam. Both are extremely good at establishing the time line on the development of what is tech diving.

google his name brother and see what comes up on the wkipida site

[Fiona]

Originally Posted by scuba steve irl

google his name brother and see what comes up on the wkipida site

and everyone knows wikipedia is so accurate

[scuba steve irl]

Originally Posted by Fiona

and everyone knows wikipedia is so accurate

yeah not the most accurate but can give an insight into where to look next as i did . i didnt base anything on wikipida but was able to verify where to go next etc...