DIR....... yeah right

[Leg Of Salmon]

Originally Posted by scuba steve irl

P.S no quarries in ireland that you are allowed to dive in

[Madfish]

Jeez, it must be something we're putting in the water or the bloody probes are set too high ........

Di

[Brian of Aquanauts]

Originally Posted by nigelH

That's where you bought the package.

You have been convinced that these things are important so you are now going to spend the rest of your diving years in quarries practising to have ever more perfect buoyancy and trim.

The rest of us know what 'good enough to do the job' means.

lol.... these things are useful, but not necessary for safety unless you cave dive or penetrate wrecks.

I like treating my sport like a sport, and actually get better at something the more i do it.

Not too sure about the quarry thing that all sounds a bit pointless to me. Still don't get why people bother... it seems as if every diver in the country goes to them these days. We were getting 15m viz last week, and a local lad popped in the shop to gethis tank filled. I asked him where he was going diving... "Chepstow" he said "to the NDC" !!!!!! he said he hadn't dived in the sea much, and was going up there with a friend. Defies belief if you ask me....

Anyway.... sorry what were we talking about, fatties v's DIR again?

[Finless]

Originally Posted by Leg Of Salmon

There is a fair bit of practicing.

Really? Only a 'fair bit'? I heard DIR trainees got beaten with a very big black stick if they get their buoyancy wrong and instructors have to endure an hours self flagellation followed by a month of 'only practice' if they get it wrong?

Pain is a very good incentive to stop doing things wrong?

I say "bring back the cane in schools"!

[Ferg3333]

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

lol.... these things are useful, but not necessary for safety unless you cave dive or penetrate wrecks.

I like treating my sport like a sport, and actually get better at something the more i do it.

Not too sure about the quarry thing that all sounds a bit pointless to me. Still don't get why people bother... it seems as if every diver in the country goes to them these days. We were getting 15m viz last week, and a local lad popped in the shop to gethis tank filled. I asked him where he was going diving... "Chepstow" he said "to the NDC" !!!!!! he said he hadn't dived in the sea much, and was going up there with a friend. Defies belief if you ask me....

Anyway.... sorry what were we talking about, fatties v's DIR again?

If I lived on the south coast or even a diveable coast I would be on a boat every weekend, unfortunately i spend my time in Blackpool and Coventry so I'm f**ked so I get to get wet in a quarry or the lakes but the not the salty stuff off Blackpool as no one runs anything off there for many a good reason Money for a weekend pass is hard to come buy when your away from the misses all week

[Brian of Aquanauts]

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

lol.... these things are useful, but not necessary for safety unless you cave dive or penetrate wrecks.

Actually can I take that back? I think i may have just said that buoyancy isn't necessary for safety. My Bad... it is essential for safety.

And that trim thing that's important too, as it's pointless spending lots of money on technical diving trips to find that some muppet has gone and kicked up all the visibility turning 15m into 2m by the time you get on the wreck. Then there's the deaths caused by silting out your own route out of a wreck even in 18m of water...

[Mal Bridgeman]

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

Then there's the deaths caused by silting out your own route out of a wreck even in 18m of water...

and near deaths when others do it to you

[Barbel]

Agree Freg333 i am in Blackburn and it a long trip to the Anglesey which is the closest for shore diving with out a boat. I wish we had something closer.

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by scuba steve irl

liked the way he had excelent controol of his bouyancy . didnt leave 1' from the ground in 1 hour and never touched the bottom . did all his drills . lovely . very nice .(still not converted)

finned forward gracefully . turned gracefully . finned backwards (holy fcuk thats inpressive ) assended with his fins and decended with his finns . very nice (still not converted)

so i spent 1 full hour with this guy and every indivual thing that he done was excelent and nice to know .

so got talking to DBD after and he informs me that this guy is only on the first step on the ladder . hes a fundie . well impressed

so as a package :

holy shit bat man are you about to eat your words

So DIR yeah right ....so mmmmmmm where do i sign up

Hi Steve,

firstly may I wish you good luck with your chosen path, I hope you gain from the experience.

I'm just wondering why you feel the need to do a fundamentals course to achieve buoyancy control like the diver you saw? I know many divers with skills like that who have just perfected it themselves by practice.

Safe diving,
Steve

P.S. are you aware they don't allow upright cylinders on BA sets in the Brigade? I reckon you'll need 2 sets of muscle memory

[Bardo]

Originally Posted by Brian of Aquanauts

Not too sure about the quarry thing that all sounds a bit pointless to me. Still don't get why people bother... it seems as if every diver in the country goes to them these days. We were getting 15m viz last week, and a local lad popped in the shop to gethis tank filled. I asked him where he was going diving... "Chepstow" he said "to the NDC" !!!!!! he said he hadn't dived in the sea much, and was going up there with a friend. Defies belief if you ask me....

Hmm... it's hardly fair to criticise those who go to quarries when a) you live right next to the sea and b) you have free access to a dive boat whenever you want it, now is it Brian?!!!!!

Fact is that for many of us, quarries are a 'make-do' option - it's something we have to do to keep our skills sharp because, let's face it, diving in the sea is just too damned expensive these days! If I want to have a day's diving down Plymouth, for example, it costs me about £30 for a round trip in Diesel and then another £40 or so in boat fees for a day's diving - that's £70! Compare instead a trip to Vobster - £15 to get in for the day (or £10 if you're a member) and, for many of us, it's a damned sight closer so the diesel bill is *alot* lower!

Would I much rather dive in the sea than a quarry? Stupid bloody question - of course I would! But the fact remains that if I want to stay sharp then I've got to dive in a quarry because I simply cannot afford to do enough diving in the sea to keep my skills as sharp as I'd like them to be. Bottom line? Sea diving-snobbery is a wonderful thing when you're not paying the diesel/boat fees!