DIR....... yeah right

[Howard Payne]

Even I wince now when I read these "seen the light" posts.

You missed out the bit about how anyone who doesn't dive this way is going to die a slow horrible death.

Come on - get it started properly FFS!

[Mal Bridgeman]

Originally Posted by Bardo

Hmm... it's hardly fair to criticise those who go to quarries when a) you live right next to the sea and b) you have free access to a dive boat whenever you want it, now is it Brian?!!!!!

Fact is that for many of us, quarries are a 'make-do' option - it's something we have to do to keep our skills sharp because, let's face it, diving in the sea is just too damned expensive these days! If I want to have a day's diving down Plymouth, for example, it costs me about £30 for a round trip in Diesel and then another £40 or so in boat fees for a day's diving - that's £70! Compare instead a trip to Vobster - £15 to get in for the day (or £10 if you're a member) and, for many of us, it's a damned sight closer so the diesel bill is *alot* lower!

Would I much rather dive in the sea than a quarry? Stupid bloody question - of course I would! But the fact remains that if I want to stay sharp then I've got to dive in a quarry because I simply cannot afford to do enough diving in the sea to keep my skills as sharp as I'd like them to be. Bottom line? Sea diving-snobbery is a wonderful thing when you're not paying the diesel/boat fees!

I'd tend to agree here .... and sat in East Anglia is the worst of both worlds from a diving perspective ... miles from quarries and miles from diveable sea

Brian's point though was the guy was already in Plymouth and was going to drive to the NADC .... I don't get that either.... if I lived in Plymouth well......I'd have to travel much further to find flat ground to ride my horse on

[milldog]

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

Even I wince now when I read these "seen the light" posts.

You missed out the bit about how anyone who doesn't dive this way is going to die a slow horrible death.

Come on - get it started properly FFS!

[big_si]

Originally Posted by Mal Bridgeman

I'd tend to agree here .... and sat in East Anglia is the worst of both worlds from a diving perspective ... miles from quarries and miles from diveable sea

Erm... Not diveable?

I've dived it, as have others. As a result of the 'not diveable' thing it's relatively undived... Life (and spidge as far as I understand) as far as the eye can see!

[Howard Payne]

Brian does have a slightly unique situation compared to the rest of us.

What's lovely is being in a position to take advantage of those unexpectedly good days that you cant plan for when you 100's of miles away

[TerryH]

Originally Posted by Bardo

Fact is that for many of us, quarries are a 'make-do' option - it's something we have to do to keep our skills sharp because, let's face it, diving in the sea is just too damned expensive these days! If I want to have a day's diving down Plymouth, for example, it costs me about £30 for a round trip in Diesel and then another £40 or so in boat fees for a day's diving - that's £70! Compare instead a trip to Vobster - £15 to get in for the day (or £10 if you're a member) and, for many of us, it's a damned sight closer so the diesel bill is *alot* lower!

Would I much rather dive in the sea than a quarry? Stupid bloody question - of course I would! But the fact remains that if I want to stay sharp then I've got to dive in a quarry because I simply cannot afford to do enough diving in the sea to keep my skills as sharp as I'd like them to be. Bottom line? Sea diving-snobbery is a wonderful thing when you're not paying the diesel/boat fees!

Well yeah, but I cant help feeling that for some there is an element of the
control freak about it all.

If you have gone down a path that screams discipline and control, I just
wonder how that mentality gets on when faced with the elements (literally)
that they cant control.

Yes I can see that distance and cost come into it, but I also cant help
feeling that if you've spent so much time perfecting what you do, the last
thing you want is to look a pratt cause of a surge etc. The sea does have
a habit of making us look like muppets.

What get's me about all this, is that we are supposed to be training for a
reason, to go to a specific site, depth etc. Kinda defeats the object when
the training becomes an end in itself.

BTW i'll be in the Solent off the IOW on Sunday, that's the salty stuff

[Howard Payne]

If you have gone down a path that screams discipline and control

You've never met me have you Terry?

[dublinbay]

Glad you enjoyed it Steve

[TerryH]

Originally Posted by Howard Payne

You've never met me have you Terry?

Lol, I am sooo gonna have to go on a YD trip one of these days.

[The Doctor]

Originally Posted by TerryH

Lol, I am sooo gonna have to go on a YD trip one of these days.

You will have to get yourself of to vobester than.