Necks and Neck Seals

[TerryH]

Originally Posted by Naomi S

Do you see a prob with this at all

No you muppet, cause you rub the cream onto dry skin until it goes dry,
then it creates a barrer. If the skin is wet when you apply it, the cream
cant work.

I did get the wink BTW.

[GLOC]

Originally Posted by PeeBee

Hangmans neck seems to be caused by the salt crystals rubbing on your neck (trapped by the latex seal. Best cure I have found is dermashield, cheap and very effective barrier cream, delivered my last order in 2 days. Derma Shield - Derma Shield; the ultimate skin protectant™

Agreed. I normally suffer badly but last year I used it for 12 dives in Scapa and 7 dives in a week off Weymouth and didn't have an issue at all. Well worth it and it does go a long way.

This year when I went to Scapa I forgot and in 2 days I had raw skin. Dived 2 days this weekend and had no problems at all.

[chas49]

Siopel is another good waterbroof barrier cream with an antiseptic ingredient too.

So long as you're not allergic to peanuts

edit: Siopel contains peanut oil so it's not suitable....

[Dave Abraham]

Originally Posted by GLOC

Agreed. I normally suffer badly but last year I used it for 12 dives in Scapa and 7 dives in a week off Weymouth and didn't have an issue at all. Well worth it and it does go a long way.

This year when I went to Scapa I forgot and in 2 days I had raw skin. Dived 2 days this weekend and had no problems at all.

I rest my case, you forgot and got sore, doesn't happen with neoprene and you don't have the faffing.

[dry suit diver]

Originally Posted by Dave Abraham

I rest my case, you forgot and got sore, doesn't happen with neoprene and you don't have the faffing.

you are assuming he can get on with a neoprene seal.

some people don't like em, can't use em etc

[Lou]

You need a low head to neck circumference ratio for neoprene seals though....

[mark pallister]

i keep my suit on all day latex seal no props

i dont shave for two or three days before and use plenty of talc when putting it on

dont know if this makes a difference but it works for me

[Naomi S]

Originally Posted by Lou

You need a low head to neck circumference ratio for neoprene seals though....

Yeah with my big swede i struggle to get most jumpers on and off, it's all about latex and ky i think

[Dave Abraham]

Originally Posted by Lou

You need a low head to neck circumference ratio for neoprene seals though....

Just visit the pie shop more often fat neck or no neck problem solved

I asked a few people when I was getting the neck seal rash what was causing it and everyone I asked came back with the same answer "latex allergy" people consulted included LDS, MD of a drysuit manufacturing company, local GP and a dive doc.

General reservation was that neo tends not to be as watertight as latex but I haven't had much trouble, just don't swivel your neck too far when watching your buddies fcuk up.

[Lou]

I don't think it is latex allergy. I think that if it were you would get a more severe reaction each time, including on the wrists as latex allergy is a sensitisation issue. It can even get as severe as anaphalaxis.

I used to believe it was a reaction, but now I am convinced it is abrasion. The change to neoprene would solve this as the edge is now 'soft' not sharp, but it isn't for everyone.