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Technology: Discuss Win 2003 SBS remote access question in the Non-Diving Related Forums forums: I never told you to reboot the machine, and it was an x-box, not a playstation. Bloody users...

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Old 29-11-04, 04:05 PM
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I never told you to reboot the machine, and it was an x-box, not a playstation.

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Users eh? Can't live with 'em, can't leave 'em under the raised floor in the machine room for more than a few weeks. In the end it's probably best if you give them mininal amount of information required to keep them out of your way. They say "Knowledge is Power". They are wrong (and you can tell them I said so). Knowledge is Trouble, especially when it's in the wrong hands. And you know that those hands are any hands but your own. And possibly the PFY's, but don't bet on it.

Teaching users to actually do stuff can be a dangerous habit to get in to. You can end up trapped in front of a group of ski-slope-headed middle-managers forcing you to poke holes in the firewall to get their mp3 collection streamed from home over your ISDN. You can spend forty minutes explaining the difference between POP and IMAP to a secretary who still thinks every time she gets a 404 that the whole internet is broken.

Still, at the end of the day, empowering the users is probably the best thing to do. Teaching the little darlings to work without you acting as safety-net is a good thing. Showing them how to edit their config files with vi is a good idea. Letting them have the access to poke amanda and change the tapes is the right thing to do while you're away or ill is just building resilience into the system, yeah.

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Teaching users to actually do stuff can be a dangerous habit to get in to. You can end up trapped in front of a group of ski-slope-headed middle-managers forcing you to poke holes in the firewall to get their mp3 collection streamed from home over your ISDN. You can spend forty minutes explaining the difference between POP and IMAP to a secretary who still thinks every time she gets a 404 that the whole internet is broken.

This is normally where I come in. I seem to spend a huge amount of time smiling at people whilst trying to contain myself from shouting.. Good Damn users.. Still without them I'd still be cooking for a living.
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Or you could try using *proper* anti-virus software which doesn't blue screen and is a piece of p*** to roll out and maintain
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Do you know if this does email scanning as well? I have had a look at the site but there is no mention of it (I'd be looking at 2005/v12)? I have just removed Norton as it's pretty useless and temporarily installed f-Prot antivirus, but looking for an all round av/firewall program that updates itself and scans incoming/outgoing email for my home pc.
Have been recommended outpost as a firewall with f-prot, but f-prot doesn't as yet scan emails (it only scans the attachments when you try to run/open them) and that was one thing I liked about Norton. I'm also after something that isn't memory hungry (tried Kaspersky av but that just ate memory!)
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Well the old server that this new box replaced has now come back to life after I whopped a new power supply into it. Bum. So- do I keep the nice shiny new Dell with RAID and SCSI and stuff what only cost me 560 quid or send it back for a refund?

Hmmmmm. Am tempted to keep it and have a bit more of a wrestle with it. Oh I don't know.
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Do you know if this does email scanning as well? I have had a look at the site but there is no mention of it (I'd be looking at 2005/v12)? I have just removed Norton as it's pretty useless and temporarily installed f-Prot antivirus, but looking for an all round av/firewall program that updates itself and scans incoming/outgoing email for my home pc.
Have been recommended outpost as a firewall with f-prot, but f-prot doesn't as yet scan emails (it only scans the attachments when you try to run/open them) and that was one thing I liked about Norton. I'm also after something that isn't memory hungry (tried Kaspersky av but that just ate memory!)
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The trend one does, yes, but it's not cheap. Trend's best for business.

For home, I recommend AVG - http://www.grisoft.com. The free one's pretty good and does have an in-built e-mail scanner.

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Thanks for that - very helpful.
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Send it back now, or at least get rid of SBS and use proper versions. SBS is devil spawn. I have ripped it out of more boxes than I care to mention.

BTW not sure what the problem is with McAfee, just stay away from the retail box they sell down PC World. The Enterprise versions in TVD have caused me no problems and are remarkably low maintenance. It is a long time since I looked at Trend, but that is because I have been happy with McAfee for years.
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Send it back now, or at least get rid of SBS and use proper versions. SBS is devil spawn. I have ripped it out of more boxes than I care to mention.

BTW not sure what the problem is with McAfee, just stay away from the retail box they sell down PC World. The Enterprise versions in TVD have caused me no problems and are remarkably low maintenance. It is a long time since I looked at Trend, but that is because I have been happy with McAfee for years.
I'll have a bit more of a play. It seems to be behaving itself now apart from the faxing where it is sulking at the rest of the network and refusing to play netball.
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